[officedweller]

Building codes are provincial. Ontario (and Quebec) certainly have tighter fire standards for subways than Vancouver.

Not that far apart? The Broadway subway spacing average is less then 1 km; 6 stations in 5.7 km. Arbutus to Granville is about a kilometre. Granville to Oak is 860 metres. Oak to Cambie is 860 metres(!). Cambie to Main is about a kilometre. And the rest is mostly outdoors.

Cosburn to Pape is about 1.1 m. Pape to the Gerrard portal is about 1.2 km. Is passenger volume in a train part of the calculation for spacing? The platform length for Vancouver trains is about 80 metres, with a train width of about 2.5 metres. Toronto subway platforms are 150 metres long with a train width of about 3.1 metres wide. So TTC trains can have more than double the passengers than the intermediate-rail trains in Vancouver. Does that need closer spacings?

The "not far apart" comment was in reference to the OL stations. In comparison, I was thinking of the distance on the Yonge line north of Eglinton ( to Lawrence and then to York Mills or Sheppard). I figure those must have emergency exits.
I didn't realize that Cosburn is about as far north as Summerhill.

 

[smallspy]

I'll bet they close all of it, because the part that isn't shown as closed off, is where the new station will go, so they will definitely close that part too. Customers will get herded past the semi-sheltered bus bays and onto a big open area of concrete. At least it won't be as insane as that temporary big open lot for buses south of Kennedy Station.

The section marked with the diagonal stripes is where the temporary bus terminal loop is being built. The section from there to Don Mills will be the part closed during construction.

Dan

 

[cplchanb]

The section marked with the diagonal stripes is where the temporary bus terminal loop is being built. The section from there to Don Mills will be the part closed during construction.

Dan

And of course Noone will be held accountable for the tremendous waste of resources. The bus terminal has been sitting unopened ready to go for over 5 years now. We honestly suck at building infrastructure. I guess thats what happens when too many parents push their kids into finance law or science instead of construction.

 

[A 6264]

The section marked with the diagonal stripes is where the temporary bus terminal loop is being built. The section from there to Don Mills will be the part closed during construction.

Dan

I think that's what I said, I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing. Once the site is closed off (as it is right now), it's not going to reopen, just because construction has not started. Just north of that spot, there is a driveway connecting Don Mills Road to the grocery store, and at the beginning of this year, it was fenced off for construction, and the store was told they won't get their driveway back for three years. But it's still a driveway, they haven't torn it up, or dug a hole, or anything, it''s just fenced off so it can't be used. That's how they work.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Just dropped by the Moss Park open house, spoke with a construction manager from Ferrovial. It is so refreshing to chat with the experts!

So here’s the scoop:

• Park soil conditions did not match what was reported by early assessments, meaning the tower crane base would not be stable
• Though public record anticipated installation in January 2025, it was originally slated for October 2024 around the time of this new discovery
• This is not an uncommon occurrence, usual mitigation would involve piling beneath the crane
• However, due to its park land designation, the piles would need to be extracted from the ground upon completion (note that all land north and west of the headhouse will be restored as park land)
• Instead, additional clamshell crawlers and other equipment are being used to keep on schedule
• Barring any showstoppers, we can expect the station to reach ground and top out much sooner than other stations, in 2028

Stupidity. Some cut-down piles are unacceptable in a public park, but it's totally fine to build a 100-metre long, 30-metre deep subway station box immediately adjacent?

I wonder how much Metrolinx is spending to not put those piles in. Probably some stupefying amount. They should have told the City to kick rocks.

 

[TOtramz]

Stupidity. Some cut-down piles are unacceptable in a public park, but it's totally fine to build a 100-metre long, 30-metre deep subway station box immediately adjacent?

I wonder how much Metrolinx is spending to not put those piles in. Probably some stupefying amount. They should have told the City to kick rocks.

Is this related to a delay in building upwards due to the lack of a crane?

I think they recently finished excavation at that station....

 

[hawc]

 

[hawc]

 

[Aplus23]

Few more, before I hand things back to @kotsy.

Are those the guideway piers or is this some pre-staging pre construction work

 

[hawc]

Are those the guideway piers or is this some pre-staging pre construction work

Apparently the first shot is a drilled shaft foundation - a type of deep foundation unlike a mat foundation. A reinforced concrete footing will go on top of that, which will support a twin wall pier and a balanced cantilever superstructure.

 

[kotsy]

Here's a few shots of the different stages of the new crane on tracks being built. According to the recent CLC meeting documents, there will be a 2nd crane erected on the East end of the site as well.

And the East end of the portal/launch shaft has now been fully excavated.

 

[hawc]

 

[nfitz]

I'd take the official TTC future maps (which have the Ontario line as Line 3 in SRT blue) MUCH more seriously than some Metrolinx renders

I haven't seen an official TTC future map since 2023 or 2024. Meanwhile Metrolinx hasn't just got renders. Here's the legend from the map they were showing at Pride today - a whole rainbow of colours! Obviously still subject to change though.

From the Metrolinx thread - https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/metrolinx-other-items-catch-all.27710/page-122#post-2252308

There's a bit of colour shift - particularly in the reds (see Line 5 for example). It's a similar purple in the renders, the design drawings for the signage, and now this June 2025 map.

Someone else took a photo, that's too hard to read. But the colours look more true.

June 2025

 

[ctf5650]

I haven't seen an official TTC future map since 2023 or 2024. Meanwhile Metrolinx hasn't just got renders. Here's the legend from the map they were showing at Pride today - a whole rainbow of colours! Obviously still subject to change though.

From the Metrolinx thread - https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/metrolinx-other-items-catch-all.27710/page-122#post-2252308

There's a bit of colour shift - particularly in the reds (see Line 5 for example). It's a similar purple in the renders, the design drawings for the signage, and now this June 2025 map.

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Someone else took a photo, that's too hard to read. But the colours look more true.
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June 2025
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Interesting, I don't hate the new colour as much as I thought I would. We can all agree that the worst case scenario is a colour mismatch between TTC maps. This was the map I was referring to that circulated on some trains a couple years ago, plans may have changed since then.

 

[APTA-2048]

I wonder if they’re planning a rail map similar to Montréal where the Hurontario line, Ion, and GO lines will be present and the Richmond Hill line and Scarborough RT blue were too similar. If it was used with the Ontario line, the two would be beside each other.