Assuming equal doors per train length, the train width should make some difference ... [/quote]Yes, width makes a bit of difference - but I assumed that the door spacing could be slighly tighter to allow for it. I wasn't clear.


81-717 said:
.. though (OL will have a narrower loading gauge)?
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I don't know about the loading gauge, but the chatter has been that these trains will be 3-metres wide - compared to about 2.5 metres on the Montreal metro cars, and about 3.1 metres for the current T1/TR subway cars and 2.65 for the Line 5/Line 6 LRVs.
 
nfitz said:
I don't know about the loading gauge, but the chatter has been that these trains will be 3-metres wide - compared to about 2.5 metres on the Montreal metro cars, and about 3.1 metres for the current T1/TR subway cars and 2.65 for the Line 5/Line 6 LRVs.
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Interesting, I was under the impression they'd be closer to the 2.7 m range like the IRT. 3 m is almost as wide as the existing network (and the BMT/IND).
 
81-717 said:
Interesting, I was under the impression they'd be closer to the 2.7 m range like the IRT. 3 m is almost as wide as the existing network (and the BMT/IND).
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3 m is also similar to the REM (Alstom Metropolis at 2.94 metres) and those Hyundai mini-trains on the Canada Line (3 metres).
 
81-717 said:
Interesting, I was under the impression they'd be closer to the 2.7 m range like the IRT. 3 m is almost as wide as the existing network (and the BMT/IND).
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nfitz said:
3 m is also similar to the REM (Alstom Metropolis at 2.94 metres) and those Hyundai mini-trains on the Canada Line (3 metres).
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To add to what @nfitz stated above, here is the relevant rolling stock information from the Ontario Line Preliminary Business Case:
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The width seems to be established at 3.0m wide according to the above information. Additionally, going off the station plans for Osgoode station, the length of the train seems to have finalized at 100m long. Adding up the 12,000 + 49,400 + 17,750 + 17,151 + 3,699 = 100,600 mm = 100.6m.
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Assuming both these are accurate, we can expect 100m x 3m trains with a theoretical capacity of 750 per train running at an expected 90 sec headway giving us a max capacity of 30,000 PPHPD!

Lots of assumptions and "theoretical" in my above statement! 🤣
 
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dowlingm said:
Metrolinx continue to make friends and provide content for the Toronto Star (gift article):
www.thestar.com

Ontario Line construction unleashed rats into her home. But Metrolinx has not footed the full bill — and won’t tell her why

After Ontario Line work unleashed rats into a retiree’s home, Metrolinx promised to pay for the exterminator. The agency hasn’t said why the payment was $1,000 short.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com
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I actually sympathise with ML a little (only a little) on this one.

It is not (as the Star implies) a case of ML digging a subway through a rat infested area and relocating those rats into an area that didn’t have any.

All parts of the city have rats. What ML did was force rats out of an area - casuing them to overpopulate an adjacent area that probably already had plenty.

In all likelihood the population will gradually redistribute itself over time, as food sources in the now overpopulated area are reduced.

It is also understandable that ML has stopped short of a come one, come all policy for reimbursing rat exterminators. That would no doubt lead to a) every existing charge for rat removal in the area being pinned on ML and b) fees charged by rat repeller services suddenly rising overnight.

ML needs to get out in front of this - something they usually perform poorly at - but this is partly just the usual Toronto Star “sad face photo” story. There is likely some middle ground here.

Oh, by the way…. Coyotes are really good at hunting rats. Enough said.

- Paul
 
dowlingm said:
Metrolinx continue to make friends and provide content for the Toronto Star (gift article):
www.thestar.com

Ontario Line construction unleashed rats into her home. But Metrolinx has not footed the full bill — and won’t tell her why

After Ontario Line work unleashed rats into a retiree’s home, Metrolinx promised to pay for the exterminator. The agency hasn’t said why the payment was $1,000 short.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com
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Over $600 for the first visit by an exterminator? That seems a lot more than I've ever paid dealing with insects or raccoons.
 
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