[dowlingm]

Wonder what the reaction on Pape from Danforth to Cosburn has been to the crossover realignment. Can’t imagine it was welcoming since now the remaining businesses north of Aldwych on the east side, like Tzatziki, are doomed like their cousins on the Cosburn station box, and the tunnels will run directly over many more homes rather than under Pape.

For everyone else, presumably the construction impacts to Pape Avenue itself are significantly reduced.

 

[HookInMouth]

Wonder what the reaction on Pape from Danforth to Cosburn has been to the crossover realignment. Can’t imagine it was welcoming since now the remaining businesses north of Aldwych on the east side, like Tzatziki, are doomed like their cousins on the Cosburn station box, and the tunnels will run directly over many more homes rather than under Pape.

For everyone else, presumably the construction impacts to Pape Avenue itself are significantly reduced.

Its a pretty big change, I understand why they are doing it. I just don't understand why this wasn't the original plan. I feel it hits worse with this being a change, after all the other closures, adding this one on later seems worse. Why would they have thought they could do it the other way before?

 

[officedweller]

Probably trying to reduce impact by expropriating fewer properties,
then realizing that scheme wasn't worth it.

 

[dowlingm]

Probably trying to reduce impact by expropriating fewer properties,
then realizing that scheme wasn't worth it.

If the original design had gone with an east side crossover I wonder if it would have been deemed the best call to simply continue on that route and then expropriate an east side station box instead? With the space McDonalds takes up, would probably have resulted in far fewer net businesses displaced at Cosburn

 

[officedweller]

That's probably true, and it would have had fewer curves on the alignment.

 

[Smiffy]

Unrelated but, I wish ML would give us construction notices a bit earlier, know what I mean?

 

[Natika33]

Some photos of the construction in E.T. Seton yesterday:

 

[GenerationLee]

Many of those "green things" are weed trees (non-native) and shrubs. Hopefully, they'll plant native seedling and saplings afterwards. Should be planting them now at the plant farm nurseries now.

I agree, and be that as it may, those trees still stabilized the slope at the time. It's a damned shame that there wasnt a better soil stabilization strategy here.

 

[Molybdenum]

If the original design had gone with an east side crossover I wonder if it would have been deemed the best call to simply continue on that route and then expropriate an east side station box instead? With the space McDonalds takes up, would probably have resulted in far fewer net businesses displaced at Cosburn

Completely agree but I get the impression that Metrolinx avoided the east side properties at Cosburn because of the church at the southeast corner which provides several community services including a food bank, youth programs, etc...which may have been politically challenging to expropriate vs all of the small businesses and the empty lot/former gas station plaza on the west side. But this is entirely speculation.

On that note, demolition began yesterday at the south end of the Cosburn Station site:

 

[Molybdenum]

Wonder what the reaction on Pape from Danforth to Cosburn has been to the crossover realignment. Can’t imagine it was welcoming since now the remaining businesses north of Aldwych on the east side, like Tzatziki, are doomed like their cousins on the Cosburn station box, and the tunnels will run directly over many more homes rather than under Pape.

For everyone else, presumably the construction impacts to Pape Avenue itself are significantly reduced.

I feel like it's safe to say that the community along Pape has no idea that this realignment is coming. Saying this as someone in the area who found out about this on UT and not through any official communications.

Its unfortunate as Tzakiki probably has the best patio of any business along Pape aside from possibly Serano Cafe.

 

[UrbanFervour]

Completely agree but I get the impression that Metrolinx avoided the east side properties at Cosburn because of the church at the southeast corner which provides several community services including a food bank, youth programs, etc...which may have been politically challenging to expropriate vs all of the small businesses and the empty lot/former gas station plaza on the west side. But this is entirely speculation.

On that note, demolition began yesterday at the south end of the Cosburn Station site:View attachment 653076

There goes the neighbourhood!

 

[leopetr]

Could someone please (re)share the diagram of the new alignment requiring demolition of Tzatziki at Pape/Aldwych?

 

[reinventingthewheel]

Could someone please (re)share the diagram of the new alignment requiring demolition of Tzatziki at Pape/Aldwych?

Source

 

[KevinT]

I enjoy that they put a freight train in that rendering. A call back to when freight trains actually used that stretch.

Maybe they were prescient enough to include ballast hopper cars for the GO quad-tracking because it's an 'under construction' rendering.

 

[chrisw]

Sounds like a good idea to use cut and cover instead of a mined cavern considering the densities.