AMOR said:
With all the design consideration throughout the Portlands, these bridges are huge misstep. Maybe too difficult of a design challenge with the old Gardiner columns still in the way. Only if the reconstruction of the DVP / Gardiner ramps could have been sequenced first.
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My problem with ALL the Portlands bridges so far is the lazy design where they put sidewalks on both sides or bike lanes on both sides but not both.

Ookwemin Minising:

The Cherry Street Bridge, bike lanes on one side, sidewalks on both sides.
The Don River Bridge, bike lanes on both sides, sidewalks on one side.

The Lake Shore Blvd. Bridge: Are there going to be bike lanes on both sides? From what I could see, with the pictures I took, there is no bike lane on the south side of that bridge, only on the north side.

It's literally the reason cyclists keep biking down Cherry Street on the east side instead of using the bike lanes on the west side. It's also the reason pedestrians keep walking across the south side of the Don River bridge (on the bike lane), in Ookwemin Minising, instead of crossing the road and using the sidewalk on the north side.

It's really, REALLY, lazy design work.
 
There's a nice view from the south side and if you're someone who likes taking pictures, it's annoying. Like your reply.
 
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GameOnBrad said:
My problem with ALL the Portlands bridges so far is the lazy design where they put sidewalks on both sides or bike lanes on both sides but not both.
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It's not entirely lazy design, the problem is that these bridges are all supposed to be twinned in the very distant future.

GameOnBrad said:
Ookwemin Minising:

The Cherry Street Bridge, bike lanes on one side, sidewalks on both sides.
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This is the only complete crossing in the Port Lands. Both LRT and road bridges have been installed.
GameOnBrad said:
The Don River Bridge, bike lanes on both sides, sidewalks on one side.
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Assuming you're talking about the Commissioner St. bridge over the Don here. Future plans call for an LRT bridge to connect to Leslie St. and the Leslie Barns. Very distant future plans.
GameOnBrad said:
The Lake Shore Blvd. Bridge: Are there going to be bike lanes on both sides? From what I could see, with the pictures I took, there is no bike lane on the south side of that bridge, only on the north side.
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If there were a bike path on the south side, it would dead end at the edge of the bridge, there is zero space between the roadway, the pillars for the Gardiner (which will be removed in a decade I guess), and the Keating channel.
GameOnBrad said:
It's literally the reason cyclists keep biking down Cherry Street on the east side instead of using the bike lanes on the west side. It's also the reason pedestrians keep walking across the south side of the Don River bridge (on the bike lane), in Ookwemin Minising, instead of crossing the road and using the sidewalk on the north side.

It's really, REALLY, lazy design work.
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So it's not the design work, but I think temporary bridges or expansions on the existing bridges should have been built, because some of these bridges won't be twinned for decades.

Also, if it's a bidirectional bike lane, why would they place it on both sides of the road? A cyclist riding on a sidewalk when there is a bidirectional lane on the other side is just laziness. Lazy cyclists, not lazy design.
 
evandyk said:
40 year old company is bankrupt within 9 years of being bought by a private equity fund. Where have we heard this story before?
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...replacing seasoned engineers with MBA's? >.<
 
GameOnBrad said:
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There is literally no space whatsoever on this side for a sidewalk. The Blvd, the supports for the Gardiner and the Keating Channel take up all the space once you get off this bridge on the south side. Maybe if they place some kind of concrete overhang on the Keating Channel maybe? The old ramp above it appears to be being dismantled, so maybe that will make some room for a sidewalk.

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I walked around to the east side of the bridge as well. They have some paving on the side of the road but I could not get close to the bridge.

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I have pictures from 2017 showing how little space there is, but turns out I archived that thread. I'll have to come back later and post them.
 
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As promised. I guess this qualifies as historic footage...holy cripes.

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Bonus pic of the Hearn.

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I agree an odd spot for a car dealership. However despite all the conversations about automobiles pro or con electric or gas. Automobiles are still BIG business and will continue to be big business. Plus some people will need cars to get around for work or they're disabled, or elderly, have children, whatever the reason. I am looking forward to see what the Porsche people will bring here. I'm looking forward to the first residences being built here too. This will be a very choice place to live int the (near) future.
 
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