INsauga News has a poll on their website asking if you will ride the LRT when it opens, with 60.4% saying No and not surprise.

Well I’d think only the people around Hurontario is going to use it. The majority of Mississauga is not beside Hurontario. So it’s not a surprise to me no different than if you had asked me if when I lived on eglinton if I ever would have used the Finch LRT. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t have been built.
 
Well, by that poll it would still be a wild success if you get nearly 40% using it daily 😁
Well I’d think only the people around Hurontario is going to use it. The majority of Mississauga is not beside Hurontario. So it’s not a surprise to me no different than if you had asked me if when I lived on eglinton if I ever would have used the Finch LRT. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t have been built.
Bulk of the riders don't live along Hurontario as they are students going to Sheridan from Brampton, people who work north of Eglinton, travelling to the mall as well in general.

I have no up to date info for ridership, but when I last did data on the #19 a decade or so ago, it was seeing around 30,000 riders daily for weekday and 10-15,000 on the weekend. Regardless what day of the week back then as well today, Hurontario still the #1 route in the city and will remain #1 in the coming decades to justify an LRT in place of a BRT.

In 2003, when I wrote my first report on transit, I called for an LRT or elevated line that would see close to 100,000 daily riders by 2050, if not sooner, depending on the density that will be built along the corridor.

The only issues I have with the LRT are stop spacing, locations and the loop. There should be a few more south of Britannia. There are a few more that will be built over time for the industrial area when they are needed.

If the line does not have a bypass branch, it will be a failure from my point of view as it will keep people in the car. The current model spite has change about 2% in the last 25 years for the city at about 17%.
 
You also have to consider not just who would use it currently, but also that it might encourage new high-rise development along Hurontario.
That is a given, as you cannot based ridership on current trend, but what is coming down the road that can be 10-30 years down the road as well taking place then. If MCC gets the density that I have call for for decades, it will have 200,000 people living, working, shopping along with other things there that requires high order of transit. The same along Dundas east of Hurontario in the range of 250-400,000 where the plan BRT will never handle the ridership.

One only has to look at Scarborough City Centre to see that, as it is happening 20 years or so after it was supposed to happen with transit being a problem for decades. What was vision as tall towers back then, are now double to triple higher than plan. Same goes for Toronto Waterfront that was to see 8-25 story towers back around 2005 and do you see anything like that now??
 

INsauga News has a poll on their website asking if you will ride the LRT when it opens, with 60.4% saying No and not surprise.

While there’s a kernel of truth here, I’m very skeptical that the readers of “INsauga News” are the same demographic that would ever use an urban tram. The ads on the site are clickbait for “Canadian seniors need to know about this secret benefit!” and other boomer ad traps.

A poll from Senior Living reported that 90% of their readers are not planning on buying an Xbox, but I wouldn’t use that as justification that the Xbox isn’t fast enough or that the Xbox should have followed x or y design decisions 😂
 
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Bulk of the riders don't live along Hurontario as they are students going to Sheridan from Brampton, people who work north of Eglinton, travelling to the mall as well in general.

I have no up to date info for ridership, but when I last did data on the #19 a decade or so ago, it was seeing around 30,000 riders daily for weekday and 10-15,000 on the weekend. Regardless what day of the week back then as well today, Hurontario still the #1 route in the city and will remain #1 in the coming decades to justify an LRT in place of a BRT.

In 2003, when I wrote my first report on transit, I called for an LRT or elevated line that would see close to 100,000 daily riders by 2050, if not sooner, depending on the density that will be built along the corridor.

The only issues I have with the LRT are stop spacing, locations and the loop. There should be a few more south of Britannia. There are a few more that will be built over time for the industrial area when they are needed.

If the line does not have a bypass branch, it will be a failure from my point of view as it will keep people in the car. The current model spite has change about 2% in the last 25 years for the city at about 17%.
Are you seriously saying that there should be more stops for this line? The issue with surface LRTs in Ontario is that we have way too many. And with this project, we barely got the number of stops under control. And you are advocating for more?
 
Are you seriously saying that there should be more stops for this line? The issue with surface LRTs in Ontario is that we have way too many. And with this project, we barely got the number of stops under control. And you are advocating for more?
There are more to be built at a future date, and yes at least 2 more been added, including a few more for the loop extension. Look back in the thread and you will see the distance between existing bus stops and plan LRT stops that I posted to see the need for more stops, let alone a few been relocated.

A lot of the stations are close to 2500 feet plus walking distance to a stop from the side streets where the bulk of riders come from in the first place. Something ML is not great looking at since they think cross route transit lines are where the bulk of the riders are. Only 3-4 stations will meet that requirement.

As a note, Hwy 403 at Hurontario is supposed to be down to one or 2 lanes this weekend to place the fault formwork to allow work to take place on the elevated bridge over the 403.

Storm water lines and other unities work taking place on the WYE area at the 403 area,
 
There are more to be built at a future date, and yes at least 2 more been added, including a few more for the loop extension. Look back in the thread and you will see the distance between existing bus stops and plan LRT stops that I posted to see the need for more stops, let alone a few been relocated.

A lot of the stations are close to 2500 feet plus walking distance to a stop from the side streets where the bulk of riders come from in the first place. Something ML is not great looking at since they think cross route transit lines are where the bulk of the riders are. Only 3-4 stations will meet that requirement.

As a note, Hwy 403 at Hurontario is supposed to be down to one or 2 lanes this weekend to place the fault formwork to allow work to take place on the elevated bridge over the 403.

Storm water lines and other unities work taking place on the WYE area at the 403 area,
I haven't heard of any plans to add stops to the current line. Where would they even add stops? I don't see any additional stops as being necessary. Though I think they should have built a stop at Elm instead of Central Parkway, but that's just me being selfish.
 
I haven't heard of any plans to add stops to the current line. Where would they even add stops? I don't see any additional stops as being necessary. Though I think they should have built a stop at Elm instead of Central Parkway, but that's just me being selfish.
For me too Elm would have been preferable. However I absolutely hate surface lines for this exact reason. You can keep adding stops slowing down the whole system. When I lived at midland and finch growing up it was already a long journey to either finch station or Kennedy station. But anytime a development occurred (a dozen townhouses) and suddenly there was a new stop making my already long journey longer.
 
For me too Elm would have been preferable. However I absolutely hate surface lines for this exact reason. You can keep adding stops slowing down the whole system. When I lived at midland and finch growing up it was already a long journey to either finch station or Kennedy station. But anytime a development occurred (a dozen townhouses) and suddenly there was a new stop making my already long journey longer.

I haven't heard of any plans to add stops to the current line. Where would they even add stops? I don't see any additional stops as being necessary. Though I think they should have built a stop at Elm instead of Central Parkway, but that's just me being selfish.
Look for rail fully encased in concrete outside of intersections, built platforms and that will be where future stops are to go in as require down the road. North of Matheson will see them. Look back at the EA and you will see where they are to go in. If and when the 407 BRT is built, a station will have to be built for it.

I agree with Elm stop and have pushed for it since day one since more riders use it than the current stop for Central Parkway, as well being service by 2 bus routes. Central Parkway stop should be move to Fairview.

There should be a stop at Kingsbridge on the southside of the intersection to deal with the buses branching off Hurontario as well the many riders currently using the bus stop as well future developments on 3 of the 4 corners. You are telling riders that they have to transfer to an Eglinton Bus or at CCTT to use the LRT.

Stops should be 400-500-1000 feet apart base on the density and side street traffic, as those side street walks can be over a 1000 feet just to Hurontario or any major transit route. From my building front door to CP stop, its 1646 plus the walking distance to the platform it self and a extra 3-5 walk from Elm to the platform based on traffic lights to cross Hurontario.

miWay has been poor saying no to riders requesting various stops to the point they are less than 300' apart and in front of an apartment building. Route 3 on Bloor have far too many building around 300' a part with one or 2 riders getting om/off at them that slow down the runtime and making a longer travel time. Someone asked miWay adding a stop on Dixie Rd by Dixie Mall for the 5 that is only 175 feet from the current one as since the walking distance is 700 feet from their front door on a short side street to the current stop. I expect miWay will say no to this for one or two riders considering they removed the southbound stop for the South Service Rd new intersection, considering there was no stop there for the old Dixie Rd for the past 30 years or more when using the 5 and the 4 bus routes.

Ask the current riders between Bristol and Eglinton stions what they think about what their walking distance will be when the LRT open considering a lot come in from side streets. If I remembered correctly, the distance is about 1000 feet between the 2 stops along with 2 traffic light between them.
 
Look for rail fully encased in concrete outside of intersections, built platforms and that will be where future stops are to go in as require down the road. North of Matheson will see them. Look back at the EA and you will see where they are to go in. If and when the 407 BRT is built, a station will have to be built for it.

I agree with Elm stop and have pushed for it since day one since more riders use it than the current stop for Central Parkway, as well being service by 2 bus routes. Central Parkway stop should be move to Fairview.

There should be a stop at Kingsbridge on the southside of the intersection to deal with the buses branching off Hurontario as well the many riders currently using the bus stop as well future developments on 3 of the 4 corners. You are telling riders that they have to transfer to an Eglinton Bus or at CCTT to use the LRT.

Stops should be 400-500-1000 feet apart base on the density and side street traffic, as those side street walks can be over a 1000 feet just to Hurontario or any major transit route. From my building front door to CP stop, its 1646 plus the walking distance to the platform it self and a extra 3-5 walk from Elm to the platform based on traffic lights to cross Hurontario.

miWay has been poor saying no to riders requesting various stops to the point they are less than 300' apart and in front of an apartment building. Route 3 on Bloor have far too many building around 300' a part with one or 2 riders getting om/off at them that slow down the runtime and making a longer travel time. Someone asked miWay adding a stop on Dixie Rd by Dixie Mall for the 5 that is only 175 feet from the current one as since the walking distance is 700 feet from their front door on a short side street to the current stop. I expect miWay will say no to this for one or two riders considering they removed the southbound stop for the South Service Rd new intersection, considering there was no stop there for the old Dixie Rd for the past 30 years or more when using the 5 and the 4 bus routes.

Ask the current riders between Bristol and Eglinton stions what they think about what their walking distance will be when the LRT open considering a lot come in from side streets. If I remembered correctly, the distance is about 1000 feet between the 2 stops along with 2 traffic light between them.
This is where I disagree with you. I do not think that if we are building a surface rail route, that stops should be 400-500-1000 feet apart at all. I think it should be at the very most 500 metres apart if it is very high density, and ideally 800 metres to 1000 metres apart in other areas. As an example, the eastern portion of the Eglinton Crosstown, I would rather not have stops at Hakimi-Lebovic and Ionview, and I would only have one stop at or in between Aga Khan Museum and Wynford. If it is a light rail system, it should be fast and efficient. If not, I do not think it is wise to spend billions on a regular local route just for additional capacity.

And if we are spending billions on LRTs, they should have wider stop distances, and signal priority, otherwise they are just not worth the money. @drum118 I think you did a video a while back regarding how long and atrocious the traffic signal is for the Eglinton LRT (somewhere near Victoria Park or Pharmacy), where the light turns red for the transit vehicles long before the light turns red for the parallel car traffic, and it shows how long the light remains red for the light rail vehicles. I hope Hurontario will be better.
 
Look for rail fully encased in concrete outside of intersections, built platforms and that will be where future stops are to go in as require down the road. North of Matheson will see them. Look back at the EA and you will see where they are to go in. If and when the 407 BRT is built, a station will have to be built for it.

I agree with Elm stop and have pushed for it since day one since more riders use it than the current stop for Central Parkway, as well being service by 2 bus routes. Central Parkway stop should be move to Fairview.

There should be a stop at Kingsbridge on the southside of the intersection to deal with the buses branching off Hurontario as well the many riders currently using the bus stop as well future developments on 3 of the 4 corners. You are telling riders that they have to transfer to an Eglinton Bus or at CCTT to use the LRT.

Stops should be 400-500-1000 feet apart base on the density and side street traffic, as those side street walks can be over a 1000 feet just to Hurontario or any major transit route. From my building front door to CP stop, its 1646 plus the walking distance to the platform it self and a extra 3-5 walk from Elm to the platform based on traffic lights to cross Hurontario.

miWay has been poor saying no to riders requesting various stops to the point they are less than 300' apart and in front of an apartment building. Route 3 on Bloor have far too many building around 300' a part with one or 2 riders getting om/off at them that slow down the runtime and making a longer travel time. Someone asked miWay adding a stop on Dixie Rd by Dixie Mall for the 5 that is only 175 feet from the current one as since the walking distance is 700 feet from their front door on a short side street to the current stop. I expect miWay will say no to this for one or two riders considering they removed the southbound stop for the South Service Rd new intersection, considering there was no stop there for the old Dixie Rd for the past 30 years or more when using the 5 and the 4 bus routes.

Ask the current riders between Bristol and Eglinton stions what they think about what their walking distance will be when the LRT open considering a lot come in from side streets. If I remembered correctly, the distance is about 1000 feet between the 2 stops along with 2 traffic light between them.
I think Bordeaux and some other French cities do a good job with this. In Bordeaux, the stops are over a kilometres apart, and the LRT almost never stops at a red light. I wish that's how we built LRTs here in Ontario.
 
The elevated guideway has been completed per this article:

 

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