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The real trouble with transit priority is how it implemented in Toronto. It may delay the green, so a transit vehicle (bus, streetcar, light rail) may cross the intersection. It may quicken the lights to change, but give left turn vehicles (usually single-occupant automobiles) priority ahead of transit vehicles.

The problem is that traffic signals are under the control of the city's transportation department (read "roads"), so the TTC has to genuflect before them to request permission. Queen's Quay's traffic signals are implemented badly.

In addition, the transit signals can be confused with normal traffic signals. The rest of the world uses transit signals that are different looking from regular traffic, but not in Ontario.
 
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Those left turn restrictions on to Martin Grove, Kipling, Islington, Royal York, etc. along Eglinton West must give the residents a lot pause.

I don't think that has been done anywhere else in Toronto, let alone Ontario?
 
Those left turn restrictions on to Martin Grove, Kipling, Islington, Royal York, etc. along Eglinton West must give the residents a lot pause.

I don't think that has been done anywhere else in Toronto, let alone Ontario?

Aren't there similar restrictions on lefts/U-turns on St Clair West?
 
Aren't there similar restrictions on lefts/U-turns on St Clair West?

To a handful of side streets yes, but not to major arterials. Eglinton West will also have separate signals mid-block for U-Turns only which I haven't seen anywhere else before.

I think we are confusing left restrictions/U-turns on the E-W transit corridor street with left restrictions to intersecting N-S streets.
 
Those left turn restrictions on to Martin Grove, Kipling, Islington, Royal York, etc. along Eglinton West must give the residents a lot pause.

I don't think that has been done anywhere else in Toronto, let alone Ontario?
are you saying there are left turn restrictions on these roads during periods of the day?
 
I think we are confusing left restrictions/U-turns on the E-W transit corridor street with left restrictions to intersecting N-S streets.

For clarity -

The EA (pre land sale) proposed that left turns fe.g. rom Eglinton to Islington be made by driving straight through the intersection, then doubling back at a new U-turn stoplight, then making a right turn onto the north-south street eg Islington.

The EA proposed that left turns from Eglinton at Martin Grove be made by turning right onto a new roadway that came to a new T intersection with Martin Grove, and turning left from that intersection (controlled with new traffic signals) onto Martin Grove.

This puts 2 new traffic lights on Martin Grove, and 2 new traffic lights at some other intersections on Eglinton.

- Paul
 
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Metrolinx must be playing some type of cruel joke on Etobicoke. Either people will discover what I going on and demand Subways, subways, subways, or smarter heads will prevail and Mx will add grade-separation, or people will not pay attention and Mx can sneak it through. If they continue to do unpopular things, it's bound to bite them back as it did with SRT and SELRT.
 
I still can't figure out how it will work as the map is small but sounds crazy.

I was at a meeting the councillor for Ward 11 and 12 had last night at the Civic Centre on Eglinton, along with staff and Metrolinx. Apparently they did confirm that the Crosstown west LRT is to run in the middle as presently planned. Residents at the meeting last night appeared to be from Mount Dennis (Ward 11) and were not happy about that.

Nor were they happy about the back up electrical power plant (for Crosstown) to be build and perhaps there would be pressure for another plant for the electrification for the UPX tracks. The view was why greener technology such as solar panels , etc was not being used and why they are so behind what is happening in other jurisdictions and countries.

No wonder why they made up the majority of people it seems. I still refuse to believe these community meetings ever change anything the majority of the time. perhaps only in areas where residents are very involved
 
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