Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
That would count as a station "palace", similar to the stations they're building on the Spadina subway extension.
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That would count as a station "palace", similar to the stations they're building on the Spadina subway extension.
Earlscourt_Lad
Active Member
They could just turn the Vaughan Road cul-de-sac into a simple bus loop. I can't see that costing too much.
howl
Active Member
The area between the station building and Dufferin Street is going to be designed as an urban plaza/park which I think will be a relatively unique and exciting feature along the line. It will really make Dufferin and Eglinton stand out as a place people will want to be, which it certainly isn't now. That could create a little redevelopment boom in the neighbourhood much like what's happened along St.Clair.
Alternately, we could pave and fence off that plaza/park area and make it a bus turn-a-round so the handful of people riding the Vaughan bus don't have to walk an extra 50m.
Earlscourt_Lad
Active Member
Charming.
The addition of small plaza that won't be very well maintained is hardly going to be the reason people flock to Duff/Eg. There's a large park just down the street, complete with pool, playing fields, and a community centre, so I don't think parkland is in short supply.
sixrings
Senior Member
The people who will use this park are people who will just be sitting and taking in the sights or having a coffee. It is a completely different type of park than a park meant for sports or children. I could argue for the underground connection to a Vaughan streetcar or bus but I would not argue against more park land. At yonge and Eglinton they lost the land right in front of the mall to expansion and then they fought for postal k to become park land. Without places for people to sit or stroll places are not pedestrian friendly. I would like a community centre at Allen and Eglinton but that is just me....
Tuscani01
Senior Member
Parkland is in short supply, especially in that area. No one is going to go out of their way to get to the park you speak of. People already do congregate at the small parkette at Dufferin/Eglinton. Since it is being removed to build the station, it only makes sense that it be replaced. It's well used for the small space that it is.
And the space is actually pretty nicely maintained, so don't even pull that card.
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CDL.TO
Moderator
There's probably room for both, you know.
Earlscourt_Lad
Active Member
I've got to disagree with you. Living near there, I can state first hand that there is no shortage of park space. I can also say, more often than not, that space is empty. But that's all beside the point I made, which is that the cul-de-sac could be re-purposed as a small loop, which isn't part of the parkette.
Tuscani01
Senior Member
I also have first hand experience, as I lived there before moving downtown (Right behind No Frills). The parkette was always a meeting spot for friends and I, and there would always be others in the space. The water fountain was pretty effective at drowning out some of the sounds from the surrounding area, which made it a bit more pleasant.
I never said I disagreed with the loop idea. Just disagreed that the parkette/square wouldn't be needed, and wouldn't be maintained based on what exists now.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Seating should be included inside and outside each station.
Palma
Senior Member
There is a gas stationat Dufferin and Eglinton? Where exactly will this new parkette be situated?
Monarch Butterfly
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ehlow
Senior Member
Cool, I like when there's a plaza or some public space at the transit station entrance.
At the 24th street BART station in San Francisco there was a nice small plaza at the station entrance, with people playing instruments, public seating etc. It was very lively & full of people.
At the 24th street BART station in San Francisco there was a nice small plaza at the station entrance, with people playing instruments, public seating etc. It was very lively & full of people.
howl
Active Member
You're talking about a loop to get a bus turned around? A bus needs at least 30m outside-curb-to-outside-curb to turn around. Then at the very least you need sidewalks beyond that so add another 5m (2.5m on either side) for a total diameter of 35m. The current Vaughan Road right-of-way is probably 20m at most, so the ONLY place to get enough room for a loop is to takeover the whole plaza/park.
Hopkins123
Senior Member
Could it be possible to create a small bus terminal like at Donlands Stn for 29 Dufferin northbound buses and the 90 Vaughan bus? Looking at that diagram, there does appear to be enough space for buses to enter and exit the station from the southeast corner.