innsertnamehere
Superstar
Eg west is supposed to be really low ridership however.
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denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Says who though? I always see this and if it is not lower then Sheppard or Finch it should be built.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Honestly, depsite what I was telling TJ all the scarborough subway options are bad. If it came down to it, I want the SRT back. That or build both the Sheppard Subway and BD extension and terminate them at STC.
doady
Senior Member
What is there for light rail on Eglinton West to connect to anyways? The airport? Mississauga Transitway? Mississauga? Seems like very low ridership potential. Eglinton East to connect to the lake is obviously a much better option.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
The airport is a large employment area. Further, Eglinton West would intercept a lot of busy feeder bus routes and bus routes are the big contributor to subway ridership levels generally speaking.
salsa
Senior Member
I would imagine that Eglinton West should get similar ridership as the Scarborough section.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Second time I've seen you say this. But as far as I know there aren't any reports covering ridership on Egg West. The best thing I could find is this document on Steve Munro's site. In 1986 Eglinton West was projected to move 17,600 pphpd while Sheppard was 15,400. Today, Sheppard Subway has nearly BRT level usage. I suppose Eglinton West would be similar.
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MrsNesbitt
Active Member
I could imagine that Eglinton West extended to the airport and surrounding employment area could generate a good load of ridership, not only from airport and airport-area workers, but also from travellers taking advantage of the standard-TTC-fare rapid transit connection at said airport.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
SMLRT should have been built too. We both know this should have been a subway. Would have shut so many people up...
Bingo. And it's cheaper then UPX, which will fail because it's expensive.
CityPlaceN1
Senior Member
The extension to the airport will happen sooner than later. A no brainer.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
I'm going to email murray soon about it.
JasonParis
Moderator
Indeed it should, although it curiously gets incredibly little buzz. I suppose its not even worth having the discussion as long as the Ford's hold power in Etobicoke.
ehlow
Senior Member
The reasons I like the Eg West LRT extension:
1. It goes to the airport & connects the Mississauga busway
2. There are apartment clusters on Eglinton along the way
3. Connects to all the NS bus lines & roads in Etobicoke
4. Richview corridor (the green space beside Eglinton) will likely be developed in the future
5. From a network perspective, moves us towards the goal of a grid-like network of continuous long lines (the Jarrett Walker dream). It becomes even more of a crosstown line in terms of being able to travel across the whole city.
6. It's cheap & fast to build since it's entirely on the surface and the expensive underground part is already being built.
7. Gives central Etobicoke better transit
1. It goes to the airport & connects the Mississauga busway
2. There are apartment clusters on Eglinton along the way
3. Connects to all the NS bus lines & roads in Etobicoke
4. Richview corridor (the green space beside Eglinton) will likely be developed in the future
5. From a network perspective, moves us towards the goal of a grid-like network of continuous long lines (the Jarrett Walker dream). It becomes even more of a crosstown line in terms of being able to travel across the whole city.
6. It's cheap & fast to build since it's entirely on the surface and the expensive underground part is already being built.
7. Gives central Etobicoke better transit
DonValleyRainbow
Senior Member
Everyone talking about Eglinton West should be aware of two things:
A) It should have been built, and it was cancelled DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. The hole filled in with cement by a spiteful government, and history will repeat itself on Sheppard East and Finch if the PC's are elected.
B) The Eglinton West will connect to the Renforth Gateway, which will connect with a 427 Rapidway and the Mississauga Transitway. Here is the Metrolinx profile on the area, lots of good stats for everyone to go to town with.
DonValleyRainbow
Senior Member
Metrolinx is putting way too much effort into researching the right price for the UPX for it to fail. People will shell out for a faster, more convenient ride. A large share of the ridership will be higher income earners. but if they take the UPX instead of a personal car or taxi, aren't we still achieving the main transportation objective? No one at Metrolinx or in the government will admit it, but it is designed for these people, because they are frequent flyers which is expensive. As morally bad as it looks, it won't prohibit a regular Joe from taking it for an annual or semi-annual trip. It's just numbers people.
Eglinton West to downtown will take a bit longer and require a transfer or two, and that's okay for those of us that only want to pay TTC fare instead of UPX fare. It will also be fairer for those that don't fly at all and commute to/from work near the airport.