[Johnny Au]

Tunnel update: http://thecrosstown.ca/progress/track-the-tunnel-boring-machine

The pins and the tunnels have been straightened, which is a major improvement.

 

[Uncle Teddy]

Excellent. Love the updates.

 

[sixrings]

I rely on the 109 Ranee bus route, which runs along Marlee. I live a few steps from the Ridelle Avenue bus stop.

RELY seems to suggest that if the 109 did not exist you would not be able to get to Glencarin or Eglinton West by foot and would therefore HAVE to drive.

 

[JayBeeGooner]

Given how long I've stood on a streetcar, trying to enter a subway station, and not being able to because of congestion, aren't stops just outside the subway station a good idea?

Exactly. The stops outisde stations are not just for "lazy people" who dont want to walk to the station. There are riders who are not going to the station.

 

[TransitPolicyChanger]

Exactly. The stops outisde stations are not just for "lazy people" who dont want to walk to the station. There are riders who are not going to the station.

Also, Lawrence West is a fairly simple station with easy access to the Bus Loop - this is also not always the case, and sometime the travel time for the bus through the station, plus having to walk through the station and back out can be significant. Let's not think about the average able bodied person, but maybe someone who has difficulty walking and would greatly benefit from these stops. Yes the route as a whole may be slowed down slightly, but its not just a waste for lazy people.

 

[ShonTron]

RELY seems to suggest that if the 109 did not exist you would not be able to get to Glencarin or Eglinton West by foot and would therefore HAVE to drive.

The 109 is fine as it is. It serves the local neighbourhood, doesn't inconvenience anyone else, and provides additional accessibility to the area, especially as only Eglinton West is equipped with elevators right now along that stretch.

There are certainly some stops that I would like to cut (Queen/Victoria, King/Victoria, Queen/Simcoe, etc), but some of those stops that are located outside the station are quite useful, especially ones outside complex stations where the path back to street level is complicated (such as at Yonge and York Mills or Islington and Bloor).

 

[gweed123]

This is a problem throughout the city, bus/streetcar stops only steps away from the subway station.

Victoria on the Queen Streetcar is a perfect example of this. The front of the streetcar is at Victoria, but the back of it is almost closer to Yonge than it is to Victoria.

I agree that the TTC needs to set up a minimum walking radius from subway stations, and have no bus/streetcar stops inside of that radius, unless they're the loading/unloading stop for that particular station.

 

[Adjei]

The Marlee stop is good because it's close to Lawrence Square mall.

 

[Palma]

The Marlee stop is good because it's close to Lawrence Square mall.

Wow. Lawrence Sq Mall. I wonder how many Torontonians are coming from all over to get off at that stop

 

[Adjei]

Wow. Lawrence Sq Mall. I wonder how many Torontonians are coming from all over to get off at that stop

So what, its good for the community and a lot of people get off at the stop.

 

[Palma]

The 109 is fine as it is. It serves the local neighbourhood, doesn't inconvenience anyone else, and provides additional accessibility to the area, especially as only Eglinton West is equipped with elevators right now along that stretch.

There are certainly some stops that I would like to cut (Queen/Victoria, King/Victoria, Queen/Simcoe, etc), but some of those stops that are located outside the station are quite useful, especially ones outside complex stations where the path back to street level is complicated (such as at Yonge and York Mills or Islington and Bloor).

But Lawrence West is not complex.

 

[sixrings]

But Lawrence West is not complex.

I honestly think a simple solution to the TTC stop spacing is to make a simple rule that stops will be only at Traffic lights and no more stops on both sides of the lights. Traffic lights symbolize high traffic areas. I am a transit advocate but the system slows down when everyone starts wanting their own stops at random areas.

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

I'm sure there are better threads to discuss TTC stop spacing, maybe we should get back to discussing the Crosstown though? I feel mighty bad that I've led the thread this far off on a tangent, my last post was trying to do that.

 

[Johnny Au]

The 109 is fine as it is. It serves the local neighbourhood, doesn't inconvenience anyone else, and provides additional accessibility to the area, especially as only Eglinton West is equipped with elevators right now along that stretch.

There are certainly some stops that I would like to cut (Queen/Victoria, King/Victoria, Queen/Simcoe, etc), but some of those stops that are located outside the station are quite useful, especially ones outside complex stations where the path back to street level is complicated (such as at Yonge and York Mills or Islington and Bloor).

Route 109 (along Marlee) can get rather busy, especially given that the Roselawn and the Ridelle stops can get rather busy.

I can walk to Glencairn station, but I prefer to wait to catch the bus instead. I was exaggerating a little.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Also, Lawrence West is a fairly simple station with easy access to the Bus Loop - this is also not always the case, and sometime the travel time for the bus through the station, plus having to walk through the station and back out can be significant. Let's not think about the average able bodied person, but maybe someone who has difficulty walking and would greatly benefit from these stops. Yes the route as a whole may be slowed down slightly, but its not just a waste for lazy people.

The only time I use stops right outside of station is when I see my bus go into the station. I may not have enough time to pay and walk through the station before my bus leaves. So I'll just wait at the stop outside the station. I actually did this today at Wellesley.

Also at sprawling megastations (Downsview, Wilson etc...) the stops right outside the station are invaluable. It can be quite the walk from the street to the bus bays, especially for persons with mobility challenges.