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The idea was sent back by council to go through a full evaluation (is it worth the economic impacts, the increased congestion, etc.) and when given the option of delaying a $5 billion project to save maybe a month or two and a couple million dollars, they chose option B which was maybe a little less money saved.

in the end most of the "savings" will likely be time, all the closure will do will mean you will need less complicated material deliveries as you will have on site storage space. crews won't have to sit around waiting for materials to be delivered. Its a very similar scenario that played out when Metrolinx wanted to move the eastern launch shaft to the Science centre parking lot.
 
I have always said that they should just put proper on and off ramps at Lawrence and end the Allen there.. Otherwise the other option is to keep the southbound Allen but close the North bound Allen. It is the North bound Allen whichnreally screws up eglinton especially on the west side where cars are willing to line up from dufferin to get on. This is coming from someone who lives 5 minutes away from the intersection and uses it personally or has his wife use it daily. It's not about bias its about the thing simply not working.
 
T-Bor said:
If people are talking about closing the allen in the future, what would be put in its' place?
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In regards to permanently closing the Allen?

Well a boulevard road from Eglinton to the 401 would replace it, and the area would be prime development potential.

We could also expand the parks a little bit at certain points.
 
sixrings said:
I have always said that they should just put proper on and off ramps at Lawrence and end the Allen there.. Otherwise the other option is to keep the southbound Allen but close the North bound Allen. It is the North bound Allen whichnreally screws up eglinton especially on the west side where cars are willing to line up from dufferin to get on. This is coming from someone who lives 5 minutes away from the intersection and uses it personally or has his wife use it daily. It's not about bias its about the thing simply not working.
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When Premier William Davis stopped the Spadina Expressway (now named the Allen Road) in 1971, it was stopped at Lawrence Avenue West. Because the ditch was already in place, it was extended until Eglinton Avenue West. Just going back to the original.

Davis was a Progressive Conservative, and better than the current Progressive Conservative leader, in my books. Not perfect, because the Scarborough Rapid Transit vehicles decision he forced upon the TTC, but better.
 
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CityPlaceN1 said:
Stopping it at Lawrence just means pushing the traffic back there. Better for Eglinton but otherwise the same issues.
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I disagree since a lawrence ending could incorporate traditional doughnut style on and off ramps which would greatly improve function ability. Right now at both Eglinton and lawrence to get on or off the highway you need to cross a lane of traffic requiring lights. This is what causes both the backup in Eglinton as well as lawrence.

In fact making a boulevard to replace the Allen to me makes the least amount of sense because you lose potential development land and people will still line up in Eglinton and you don't gain the new ramps at lawrence.
 
sixrings said:
I disagree since a lawrence ending could incorporate traditional doughnut style on and off ramps which would greatly improve function ability. Right now at both Eglinton and lawrence to get on or off the highway you need to cross a lane of traffic requiring lights. This is what causes both the backup in Eglinton as well as lawrence.

In fact making a boulevard to replace the Allen to me makes the least amount of sense because you lose potential development land and people will still line up in Eglinton and you don't gain the new ramps at lawrence.
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What they should do (for the short term) is to reverse the traffic flow of the ramps on the south side of Lawrence. For example, eastbound Lawrence vehicles, instead of turning left to go northbound, turn right onto the former exit ramp. A single lane wide U-turn at the bottom of the ramp would then allow the vehicles to go northbound. Depends upon how much of a curve would be required to a tractor-trailer to do a U-turn. What type of vehicle could handle such a U-turn?

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I am a little late to the party, but Dennis has almost - almost - made it under the tracks to Caledonia. Come on little fella, you can do it ...
 
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