Jaye101
Active Member
They want to create islands at the foot of the Humber River to divert the (dirty) water away from Sunnyside beach.
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They want to create islands at the foot of the Humber River to divert the (dirty) water away from Sunnyside beach.
ehlow
Senior Member
Cool. Anything that creates more panoramic viewing areas of our beautiful skyline is a good thing in my books
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Is that actually moving forward? I thought they had basically just decided to sell the fill or dump it up in Stouffville or something like where most condo fill goes now.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
I forgot about that proposal. That seems (along with the Leslie Spit) a good idea.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The Toronto Islands should get the dirt first to reverse the erosion from the lake sand being diverted to the Leslie Spit.
On another point, instead of calling the Eglinton Crosstown LRT "underground" portion as the "tunnels", we should call it what is really is. An "underground electric railroad" or a "subway".
sixrings
Senior Member
no one wants to believe this but when they originally were talking about closing the Allen north bound during construction they were also talking about the possibility of filling in the Allen with the extra dirt up until Lawrence. Two councillors said this at LRT meetings to the public which i would consider off the record.
Ozman
Active Member
Nice comment Sean - NOT. It does demonstrate two things though: First, that you couldn't care less about the Leaside residents and second that you are completely ignorant of the issues surrounding the cancelling of the proposed move of the eastern portal to Don Mills.
It was not Leaside residents (including those on Aerodrome) who opposed having the tunnel go to Don Mills. It was the residents of condos on Leslie north of Eglinton who fought for their Leslie stop and thus opposed the tunnel to Don Mills. They were supported (understandably) by their councillor Jaye Robinson who incidentally represents the Leslie condos but does NOT represent any part of Leaside.
Where things got weird in my opinion was that the LPOA (Leaside Property Owners Association) also supported the Leslie condo owners despite having no mandate to do so. Perhaps former neighbours/friends live there; I don't know and have been unsuccessful in getting the LPOA to explain why they gave their support. Perhaps Sean you can get an answer from the LPOA as to why they did this. Unfortunately the Star picked up on this and without researching the issue blasted headlines that LEASIDE FOUGHT FOR AND KEPT THE LESLIE STOP. This was wrong. No Leaside residents will ever use the Leslie stop and could not care less if it was built. They would have preferred having the launch site at the Science Centre or at least have a south-side alignment so it doesn't mess-up the Leslie-Eglinton intersection but alas it looks like it's not to be. At least Leasiders who will use Laird Station (as well as Bayview) will have full headways before half the trains short-turn east of Laird. And by the way, by Leasiders, I include those on Aerodrome who while they may be geographically closer to Leslie will no doubt use Laird. They won't have to walk down into/up out of the valley to an outdoor stop at Leslie and they can walk two level blocks to an underground (weather-protected) station with twice the frequency at Laird. Also, there is the South Leaside bus which goes right along Vanderhoof and I'm sure will be slightly altered to deliver Aerodrome residents directly to Laird Station.
Finally; the majority of my above points have been posted ad nauseum in this thread in months/years past and if you care to look at them Sean, they may enlighten you a bit.
Thank you.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
There are NIMBYs both for and against having a transit stop in any neighbourhood. There is no Willowdale Station on the Sheppard Subway because of community opposition before construction started. However, they could put in a station at Willowdale if there is demand for it. Unlikely at the moment. Provision could have been done at Leslie, but they wanted a transit stop now and not later.
howl
Active Member
Someone told me that when they were thinking of extending the tunnel to Don Mills the station at Laird might have moved east so that it was halfway between Laird and Brentcliffe. That would served the people on Aerodrome much better. On the other hand people west of Laird would have been slightly less well served.
cbrown2009
Active Member
Well as to Leslie (Sheppard Line), with better service & fare integration and a slight shift to the north of Oriole Go station, that could become more useful as a station interchange. Dare I say, even a minor hub? Like Mount Dennis/Weston or Caledonia on the crosstown. I wonder if that was thought of for the medium term.
I'm glad they hung on to the Leslie (Eglinton) stop, though a south side of road alignment could have worked a little better.
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TheTigerMaster
Superstar
I don't want to believe this. Why would they want to do that?
salsa
Senior Member
Since when was option 2 ever presented to the public?
TFC
Active Member
Has a relocation of Oriole GO station ever been considered? The current set up is such a wasted opportunity and moving the GO station next to the Leslie subway station would increase system connectivity. Hopefully GO is aware of this.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I'm sure they are but I also think that they probably get higher ridership in its current location with the parking lot under the 401.
sixrings
Senior Member
1. They need somewhere to put the dirt. It costs money to get other cities to take our problems from is.
2. The Allen is maintained by the city. It would be one less bill for the city to pay.
3. Glencarin, lawrence and Eglinton would see some development which would help get more users for the stations. Selling that new land to condo builders would make the city monies.
Basically the Allen doesn't really work, and the dirt could be used to make new land available. Most importantly they would save and make money.