Dan416
Senior Member
I guess that depends if Eglinton or any other project will go on the map.
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nfitz
Superstar
I'd be very surprised if the Spadina subway extension doesn't go on the map.
And I'd be very surprised if the map doesn't change when the SRT is rebuilt/expanded.
It may be a bit harder to do on the new TRs because it's the lighted board.
But yes, they should at the very least add Spadina, and maybe wait until the TBMs start actually digging on Eglinton to show that on there too.
The fact that the TTC map hasn't needed to be changed in just over a decade is pretty sad (aside from adding a few accessible station icons).
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Well the good news is that the TTC certainly has quite a few changed to make in the next few years.
We will certainly be seeing the Eglinton Crosstown, Scarborough RT extension and Spadina Extension in 2016 and 2022, the Finch and Sheppard LRTs (fingers crossed) and most likely a DRL in the next 15 years and Yonge extension immediately after that.Good times for transit in Toronto
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
On the TRs, they'll just be unlit faded lines.
nfitz
Superstar
Ah, good point. I spend most of my time on the BD line.
If we ever get the subway system we want, they are going to have to move away from these long narrow maps of the entire system, and simply put the line in question on the strip, use a typical portrait format for the system map.
That's supposed to be within days or weeks though, isn't it? Mid-February 2013 was the target date only 5 months ago.
Yup I think that certainly makes sense. For YUS, rotate the U on it's side for the overhead line map (will also be easier to fit in the Spadina and Yonge extensions when they come to be). It would look pretty squished otherwise. B-D is pretty obvious because it's more or less a straight line except in the east.
True. On 2nd thought, I think it would make sense to only add it a couple years before it's supposed to arrive (~2 years away on Spadina now). Don't really want it showing as "coming" for over half a decade.
nfitz
Superstar
LOL, or some of the Montreal lines they used to show, such as Line 5 to Lafleur and Montreal-Nord ... or later line 7 to Montreal-Nord ...
Molybdenum
Active Member
The TR map is essentially a Lite-Brite underneath (remember those?). It will be able to handle the Spadina extension no problem. Might be a challenge to fit in the station names for the Eglinton line, however.
Actually, you can see what the map will look like with the Spadina extension added to it on the TYSSE website: http://www.ttc.ca/Spadina/About_the_Project/TTC_System_Map.jsp or see the PDF: http://www.ttc.ca/Spadina/PDFs/Subway RT with TYSSE.pdf
Hahaha, I wasn't sure what the tech was, I haven't really looked at them too closely.
I think when Eglinton comes online they're definitely going to need to switch to line-only maps for the overhead maps. Like nfitz said, put one of the full system maps in a couple of the poster spots besides the door. Just show where the line connections are on the overhead maps.
Yeah, don't want the system map looking too much like a fantasy map, haha. Only add the line when it's passed the point of no cancellation.
BurlOak
Senior Member
Do you have some inside information that the line will become buried or elevated through Scarborough - either of which would probably be considered "subway".
Catenary
Active Member
At what point is that? When it opens? After it's running and all the bugs are out of the rolling stock? I'm not sure there is a point of no cancellation when it comes to Ontario transit projects!
nfitz
Superstar
No ... I was only talking about the 13-km underground tunnel in old Toronto and York, not Scarborough.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I would probably add all projects at an arbitrary "two year from completion" date. I.E. Spadina should be added next year, while the Eglinton LRT should be added in 2018.
That's what I was thinking. Realistically, when most of the tunnelling is completed, I would say that's past the cancellation point. 2 years to go is a safe bet for the project being 'safe'.