[mrgrieves]

the geniuses running the city had years to get organized about TSP. yet they wait for Finch to go be a disaster before addressing it. they have known based on the thousands of miles of testing what the impact of not having TSP is.
how quickly can it realistically be enabled?

 

[jmi22]

What subway did Ford fill in? It's Premier's McGuinty, Harris, and Miller who have cancelled in-construction or close to construction lines.

Which line did Miller cancel? I only know of him proposing terrible ones.

 

[jmi22]

New frontpage storey on Line 5, and the steaming pile of LRT that it will almost certainly be upon opening.

Eglinton Line 5: On Track to Fail? | UrbanToronto

Toronto’s long-awaited LRT line, Eglinton Line 5, is all but guaranteed to open within the next few months after 15 long years of construction. With anticipation building and more than $12 billion sunk into the project, a question looms over an undertaking that has dominated the city’s...

urbantoronto.ca

 

[jmi22]

It seems like the opening of this line is in a perpetual 3 months away.
At least the West extension is visbile moving ahead at a good pace, still shocked it will not open until 2031

A half elevated half tunneled LRT running from Renforth to Weston before the actual Line 5 opens would be hilarious. A true Ford Express if there ever was one.

 

[TOtramz]

Genuinely can't believe another year has gone by without an opening date announcement. It really seemed like 2025 would be the year

Isn't there a 90 day deadline to get the LRT open after substantial completion? I remember reading something like that a while ago, but I can't seem to find anything about it anymore

It’s true that they need to open it within 30 days, it’s explicitly stated in the project agreement

 

[McGillicuddy]

The consequence of breaching that agreement is presumably a financial or administrative penalty: they'll have to start paying for maintenance and operations expenditures which they aren't actually using, that sort of thing.

Not like people will go to jail if the line opens late.

 

[lastcommodore]

Eglinton LRT next update will come in "Late January", probably looking at March at the earliest at this point I imagine.

"However it eventually became clear it would not open by the end of 2026."

LINE NOT OPENING UNTIL 2027 - might as well wait a couple more years and open it up alongside the EG LRT W Extension lol

Council passes motion to help speed up sluggish Finch LRT

Toronto residents will get an update in late January on the status of the long-delayed Eglinton Crosstown, Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow says, but the line won’t open before then.

www.ctvnews.ca

Article has been updated- "...open by the end of 2025"

Re: 30 days, i dont know who that is accountable to. TTC? MX? The private consortium? We already know that MX wanted to open it this year, TTC wanted to open it February, and MX threw their hands up and said "Whatever, you open it when you want."

If it's the TTC, then i dont think anyones getting in trouble if the TTC causes the delay. But it could also be the consortium, which would actually cost $$...

 

[urbanclient]

New frontpage storey on Line 5, and the steaming pile of LRT that it will almost certainly be upon opening.

Eglinton Line 5: On Track to Fail? | UrbanToronto

Toronto’s long-awaited LRT line, Eglinton Line 5, is all but guaranteed to open within the next few months after 15 long years of construction. With anticipation building and more than $12 billion sunk into the project, a question looms over an undertaking that has dominated the city’s...

urbantoronto.ca

"At the December 10th TTC Board meeting, it was reported that current test runs on Line 5 schedule 56 minutes for a trip from Mount Dennis to Kennedy. Given this month’s precedent of the TTC missing its targeted schedule on the Finch West LRT by 20 percent, total trip times on Line 5 are likely to exceed an hour. Even if the TTC only surpasses its target by 10 percent, resulting in a 62-minute trip, the Eglinton Crosstown would only beat the current fastest transit option from Kennedy to Mount Dennis — via Line 2 and the UPX — by a single minute." -from the article linked

I hope I am wrong, but I previously estimated 50 minutes theoretical scheduled Mount Dennis to Kennedy. 6/56 minutes was for recovery time. Oh how naive we were to believe an LRT could fly past cars down the road median.

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Toronto Transit Commission's proposed light rail commuter trains in 2009

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If by some miracle they get it down to the advertised 38 minutes by opening, my last shred of hope in Toronto transit will be restored.

The thing is, the Crosstown is for mostly local commutes. Very very few people would be going the whole length of the line, unless their destination is Pearson Airport. In which case, they can factor the long trip into their travel plans.

Considering average speed of 25km/h for surface portion, and 34km/h for tunneled portion...

End to end should be:

Crosstown West - 8.6km (to Renforth) / 25km/h = 20:38 min
Crosstown Tunnel - 11.5km / 34km/h = 20:17 min
Crosstown Surface - 7.3km / 25km/h = 17:31 min
Crosstown East - 15.1km / 25km/h = 36:14 min
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Eglinton Crosstown (Renforth to UTSC) = 94:40 min (1 hour 34 minutes)

This again, should demonstrate just how large Scarborough is. Crosstown East is a long extension.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

^ Me from ten years ago would have blown a gasket seeing Finch West crawl at 12km/h. I've gotten accustomed to Toronto's mediocrity it seems.

To think we were of the mind that the surface LRT portions would be zipping by at 25 km/h at the time.

 

[Northern Light]

^ Me from ten years ago would have blown a gasket seeing Finch West crawl at 12km/h. I've gotten accustomed to Toronto's mediocrity it seems.

To think we were of the mind that the surface LRT portions would be zipping by at 25 km/h at the time.

Here's the thing though, there's really no reason they can't manage 25km/ph, if not a bit better.

But we have to demand that of politicians at all levels, agency heads, and Ministry higher-ups, and the seat-warming seals that have seats on the Mx Board.

Its not enough to complain from one's couch......email, phone, more than once, make a nuisance of yourself (lawfully).

It is possible to achieve a better result. But action, must replace apathy. I should say, that's not targeted at you in any unique way, its a reminder to everyone.

 

[mr_content]

Hearing from my sources that they're renaming this line the "Bruno Caboclo Line" because it's two years away from being two years away

 

[nfitz]

Which line did Miller cancel? I only know of him proposing terrible ones.

He was the one that cancelled the GO-ALRT lines. I'm not aware of him proposing anything.

 

[Steve X]

Article has been updated- "...open by the end of 2025"

Re: 30 days, i dont know who that is accountable to. TTC? MX? The private consortium? We already know that MX wanted to open it this year, TTC wanted to open it February, and MX threw their hands up and said "Whatever, you open it when you want."

If it's the TTC, then i dont think anyones getting in trouble if the TTC causes the delay. But it could also be the consortium, which would actually cost $$...

Open in late 2025 really means ML has handed the project to the TTC and has determined that it is ready to open. If TTC chooses not to open it, that does not mean it’s not ready to open

 

[youngblood]

If the TSP study from the city is coming late Q1, and eglinton isn’t opening without TSP, then there needs to be more backlash on the (further) delay

 

[nfitz]

Open in late 2025 really means ML has handed the project to the TTC and has determined that it is ready to open. If TTC chooses not to open it, that does not mean it’s not ready to open

Based on what we've learned from Finch, if the TTC chooses to open it, does not mean it's ready to open!