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Minister of Transportation basically said they're handing it over to the TTC within 2 weeks and they could open anytime after that. Essentially throwing it into the TTC's court to open before year's end so they can finally wash their hands of this...."ask the TTC - we handed it over to them."

TTC has to deal with the union.
 
They also mentioned more training - what on earth are you still training at this point? If they have operated the line in a revenue demo for 30 days, they know what they need to know.
 
My opinion: the union (i.e. representing the future operators) wants to know what happened in the yard accident/collision. Metrolinx/Crosslinx isn't saying because the line hasn't been handed over to TTC yet, so they figure tey need not (or are contractually bound not to) share the details.
 
hw621 said:
I, on the contrary, wonder if this will cause further delay, I.e., the union refused to let drivers operate the line out of "safety" concerns...
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the only thing they'll likely discover is that one of the switches in the yard track was misconfigured and that it's now fixed.

nfitz said:
In the years that passed since the original training, they probably need to replace the retirees - and those who have died from old age.
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/s ? it's only been less than a year since they trained the operators...
 
hw621 said:
Why would the union come out and say something like this now?
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If I were a driver on this line, I would like to know the history of accidents where I work, and their causes. That's what the union is for, among other things.
Why now? We don't know what went on between the union and TTC and ML over the last several months. My guess is that the union kept asking for information and didn't get any (no surprise there), so in the end decided to go public.
 
RS1 said:
No idea.

You may not be wrong, but I was just pointing out that they've been operating all through the RSD so it'd be strange for them to claim a safety concern now given they didn't immediately pull all of their members after the accident.
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Yea it would be a really weird move to suddenly claim not to want to operate the line after operating the RSD for a month after the incident
 
Diablo1983 said:
They also mentioned more training - what on earth are you still training at this point? If they have operated the line in a revenue demo for 30 days, they know what they need to know.
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No they didn't. They explicitly said that substantial completion will happen quicker than line 6 because they already finished all their operator training. People in this forum love making up things to act like the sky is falling. We are weeks away from this thing opening and no one is willing to just accept good news.
 
ThenWhat said:
If I were a driver on this line, I would like to know the history of accidents where I work, and their causes. That's what the union is for, among other things.
Why now? We don't know what went on between the union and TTC and ML over the last several months. My guess is that the union kept asking for information and didn't get any (no surprise there), so in the end decided to go public.
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At the one fare press release earlier this week Madame Olivia was smerking and doing a mini dance, when they said they were approaching completion. I don't think her or the new TTC CEO will want take on the blame for any further delays. My bet is on a Christmas Day opening.
 
TOtramz said:
Yea it would be a really weird move to suddenly claim not to want to operate the line after operating the RSD for a month after the incident
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Has anybody said they don't want to operate the line?
From what I have seen, they are merely asking for transparency, specifically information about the accident and its causes. You would think that would be provided to the union as a matter of course. But that's not how ML operates --- not a surprise for anyone who follows this forum.
 
Toronto Rocks said:
At the one fare press release earlier this week Madame Olivia was smerking and doing a mini dance, when they said they were approaching completion. I don't think her or the new TTC CEO will want take on the blame for any further delays. My bet is on a Christmas Day opening.
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Christmas Day? As in a day when the politicos who simply *must* be there to give their vapid speeches will want to be at home with their families?
 
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