[jordanmkasla2009]

Assuming the RSD ends today, when would they:

a) Announce the opening date of the Eglinton LRT?
b) Actually open the Eglinton LRT?

I’m hoping it might open by Sunday, January 4, just in time for the new semester / back to work after the holidays —maybe even announced around Christmas as a bit of a holiday gift?

Love to hear your thoughts on a and b above

if substantial completion is achieved by next week they could theoretically open it with the start of the next board period on December 21. More realistically they would open it on January 4 which is the start of the board period after next.

 

[nfitz]

if substantial completion is achieved by next week they could theoretically open it with the start of the next board period on December 21. More realistically they would open it on January 4 which is the start of the board period after next.

If it's ready to open on December 21 (and why wait until a board period - Line 6 didn't), then I can't imagine they'd for a second consider opening it in 2026 instead of 2025. The optics would be terrible if it slips another year.

 

[McGillicuddy]

There's more than one sort of optics, though. If Doug Ford wants lots of media attention at the event where he formally opens the line, he's not going to schedule it during a period when lots of people are travelling and ignoring the news. In this sense, I think you're dead on with December 21: I can imagine a blackout period from December 22 to January 4.

Mind you, if they think the line's going to be a flop, maybe opening it on a sleepy Sunday over the holidays is the best-case scenario. (And maybe Doug Ford won't be too eager to cut the ribbon himself.)

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

It will likely progress faster for this line as the TTC has no need to do an additional training class for operators for Line 5 as they did for Line 6

I was trying to tell someone that on Reddit, but they were convinced that it was an extra month that the TTC was testing the line and would be doing that with Eglinton as well

 

[Obsidian]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995500088236650952

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995500772478562309

So Finch LRT was handed over to the TTC ~Nov 3rd, reached substantial completion on Nov 21, which led (will lead) to an opening date of Dec 7.

So roughly about a month from handover to opening... Late Jan is a possibility for Eglinton

Substantial completion will happen 2 weeks earlier (1 week after RSD) on Eglinton than it did on Finch. So a 2025 opening is still in the cards.

 

[urbanclient]

The Julian calendar is currently 13 days behind the Gregorian calendar. So If we didn't convert to the Gregorian calendar by the British Calendar Act of 1751, we would still be in 2025.

If Line 5 actually opens in January and Metrolinx tries to spin it as a 2025 opening somehow:

Bros on copium

"N-no ackshually guys theres a super-secret calendar the TTC hasn't released yet trust me!111!!"

^Remixed post

 

[EnviroTO]

They found an honestly clever solution to the Eglinton-Cedarvale misalignment on the old LED boards

I hope you aren't serious. Just by looking at the spacing on the Finch West stops and the vertical distance between the Union and King station it is pretty clear they have a lot of flexibility on placement. To suggest there wasn't alternatives that would allow Eglinton to be at the same height as Cedarvale is nonsense.

 

[McGillicuddy]

I hope you aren't serious. Just by looking at the spacing on the Finch West stops and the vertical distance between the Union and King station it is pretty clear they have a lot of flexibility on placement. To suggest there wasn't alternatives that would allow Eglinton to be at the same height as Cedarvale is nonsense.

It's one thing to replace the map, another thing to replace the underlying LED mechanism. The LED system is modifiable, but this is skilled work best done when you're overhauling the cars. Whereas any schmuck with a stepladder and a screwdriver can replace the map.

 

[EnviroTO]

Yes, I would imagine they didn't put all the possible LEDs on the board such that there would be LEDs that are never utilized. However I would expect this is built with a breadboard or something flexible for the placement of LEDs, maybe jumper wires if the controller didn't have access to all the possible positions, and then some software update to apply the change.

 

[nfitz]

Yes, I would imagine they didn't put all the possible LEDs on the board such that there would be LEDs that are never utilized. However I would expect this is built with a breadboard or something flexible for the placement of LEDs, maybe jumper wires if the controller didn't have access to all the possible positions, and then some software update to apply the change.

You'd imagine they would have.

But they didn't - other than the 6 LEDs for the Vaughan extension that hadn't opened when these trains arrived, or this photo taken. Those "extra" holes you see are screws.

I suppose there's enough lights now from the old Line 3 to cobble something ugly together for the Line 2 extension. But that's it.

 

[smallspy]

Question you would probably know the answer to: The Wikipedia article on Line 2, in the section titled "Depot", suggests the line isn't using the newest trains because they can't be stored at the Greenwood yard.
"The Greenwood Yard will be inadequate as it is completely full with no room to expand, and because its facilities are optimized for two-car train sets rather than the six-car train sets of the proposed new fleet."
From that, I gather that when T1 trains are put in the yard, they are broken down to 2-car groups, and that's why they can't hold the Rocket trains, or at least, not enough of them. Is all that still true?

Wilson wasn't configured to handle 6-car trains either before they rebuilt and built the new buildings. But here we are.

The same could be done at Greenwood as well, although yes, land is far more limited there and the ability to expand is nil. There are a very few tracks where 6-car trains have to be broken up into pairs to be stored. But had they reorganized the yard, they could have also done so in a way to minimize those tracks.

But was that the reason why the TRs are operated on the YUS? No. It was because of the signalling system and the fact that they do have a higher capacity than a 6-car T1 train.

Dan

 

[zang]

Yes, I would imagine they didn't put all the possible LEDs on the board such that there would be LEDs that are never utilized. However I would expect this is built with a breadboard or something flexible for the placement of LEDs, maybe jumper wires if the controller didn't have access to all the possible positions, and then some software update to apply the change.

Ugh. A breadboard and/or jumpers would be far more difficult to deal with. Especially if the more vandal-prone riders ever caught wind.

Honestly though, screens should've been the way to go. Tri-colour LEDs for information of this type on a device built after 2008 seems ridiculous and cheap. It wouldn't be such an insult if they didn't also use 5:4 screens mid-car that seem to be both barely noticeable and absolutely useless.

 

[zang]

You'd imagine they would have.

But they didn't - other than the 6 LEDs for the Vaughan extension that hadn't opened when these trains arrived, or this photo taken. Those "extra" holes you see are screws.

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I suppose there's enough lights now from the old Line 3 to cobble something ugly together for the Line 2 extension. But that's it.

The question is; did they make the SRT lights addressable as well. :/ And as fortuitous as it may be today, WHY would they have done so when building these beasts pre 2010?

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

RSD is complete! On to Substantial Completion and transferring full operational control to the TTC!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995888515750781217

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995887547780636986

 

[pleaseLRT]

RSD is complete! On to Substantial Completion and transferring full operational control to the TTC!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995888515750781217

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995887547780636986

I used to pray for times like this