[zang]

Over half of the stuff on their website uses the old name. This article says there were >7,000 paper maps and 150 signs to change when Downsview became Sheppard West, so I understand it taking time. But the web stuff? That should be pre-loaded and clocked to change automatically.

This name change is going to be 50% late like this whole line.

I don’t get the inconsistency in naming? We renamed Downsviewn to Sheppard West, but feel the need to change Eglinton West to Cedarvale and Dundas to TMU. I get yeeting the east/west thing for confusions sake, but is Sheppard West gonna stay?

 

[drum118]

Nov 16
Not sure what the headways was to be but it was 2-15 minutes betwebb LRV sets I believe the 15 minute gap had di to cars been short turn at Hemb as I saw one doing this on my return trip after shooting the video from the DVP to Kennedy.

Where I normal setup to shot photos I saw this happen with a westbound LRV set arriving at Hakimi station. What got me for that short turn was the LRV set only went westbound to Pharmacy station and then became an eastbound LRV set. When that LRV set that became an eastbound train and clear the crossove the other westbound LRV set sitting at the Hakimi station proceed westbound.

LRV short turn at Hakimi is now short turning at Pharmacy station

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[hw621]

Nov 16
Not sure what the headways was to be but it was 2-15 minutes betwebb LRV sets I believe the 15 minute gap had di to cars been short turn at Hemb as I saw one doing this on my return trip after shooting the video from the DVP to Kennedy.

Where I normal setup to shot photos I saw this happen with a westbound LRV set arriving at Hakimi station. What got me for that short turn was the LRV set only went westbound to Pharmacy station and then became an eastbound LRV set. When that LRV set that became an eastbound train and clear the crossove the other westbound LRV set sitting at the Hakimi station proceed westbound.

LRV short turn at Hakimi is now short turning at Pharmacy station

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4:15, left turn over LRV

1:37 in the second video too

 

[KhalilHeron]

Look I'm just bored with there being a void of other info for this thread to discuss, it's a stupid nitpick. But per my previous post, web info should be easier to queue up. And my impression from the news releases from Metrolinx / the province is that 'the name changed effective November 16'.

Metrolinx doesnt really have a say in when the ttc renames one of their existing stations. Only mention i found about the name in recent metrolinx releases is "Eglinton West Station will be renamed Cedarvale Station once Line 5 Eglinton opens."

 

[KhalilHeron]

I don’t get the inconsistency in naming? We renamed Downsviewn to Sheppard West, but feel the need to change Eglinton West to Cedarvale and Dundas to TMU. I get yeeting the east/west thing for confusions sake, but is Sheppard West gonna stay?

if they extend line 4 to sheppard west they should rename it cedarvale north

 

[JSF-1]

I don’t get the inconsistency in naming? We renamed Downsviewn to Sheppard West, but feel the need to change Eglinton West to Cedarvale and Dundas to TMU. I get yeeting the east/west thing for confusions sake, but is Sheppard West gonna stay?

Two different naming schemes. The Vaughan extension of Line 1 was a TTC project so it follows the TTC's preferred naming scheme. Pioneer Village for example was supposed to be called "Steeles West" and VMC was simply supposed to be "Vaughan Centre" until politicians started meddling. Also the TTC didn't want to have Downsview and Downsview Park right after each other due to possible confusion. The Crosstown is a Metrolinx project and they have their own naming scheme (which they don't follow sometimes) and for them they want stations to have unique and "meaningful" names. That said early in the project MX said they wouldn't rename pre-existing stations, yet here we are because once again they have a naming scheme which the paid some know-nothing consultant god knows how much money to create and then don't even bother to follow it.

If the Crosstown used the TTC naming scheme then Eglinton West would keep its name and Eglinton would become Eglinton-Yonge (which honestly it still should).

 

[TOtramz]

Nov 16
Not sure what the headways was to be but it was 2-15 minutes betwebb LRV sets I believe the 15 minute gap had di to cars been short turn at Hemb as I saw one doing this on my return trip after shooting the video from the DVP to Kennedy.

Where I normal setup to shot photos I saw this happen with a westbound LRV set arriving at Hakimi station. What got me for that short turn was the LRV set only went westbound to Pharmacy station and then became an eastbound LRV set. When that LRV set that became an eastbound train and clear the crossove the other westbound LRV set sitting at the Hakimi station proceed westbound.

LRV short turn at Hakimi is now short turning at Pharmacy station

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That’s very weird behaviour for something that’s supposed to be revenue service! Unless this is a special test needed to pass the week

 

[hw621]

if they extend line 4 to sheppard west they should rename it cedarvale north

We probably don't need to worry about this in our life time lol

 

[Photon54]

Some observations about the little details from visiting the new concourse at Cedarvale on opening day:

General Observations:

• Very clean with staff on hand to guide passengers
• The trains were passing by frequently roughly every ~5 minutes or so
• Automated announcements were playing announcing incoming trains on the Line 5 platforms
• Heard a new beeping sound from trains when door opens that’s different from the chime used on streetcars.
• Several retail storefronts in the concourse, hoping we can have some in station shops and food when the line opens
• Washrooms located on concourse

Signage observations:

• Signage is bilingual
• Signs for Line 1 transfers still uses cardinal directions as opposed to the terminal stations - may get confusing with two different directional signs for Line 1 (IE, Line 1 North instead of Line 1 to Vaughan)
• Exits marked with the green ISO “running man” signage instead of the red EXIT
• Curious how the TTC will update the signage when wayfinding harmonization comes around or will it continue to leave the unique line 5 signage in place

 

[zang]

Two different naming schemes. The Vaughan extension of Line 1 was a TTC project so it follows the TTC's preferred naming scheme. Pioneer Village for example was supposed to be called "Steeles West" and VMC was simply supposed to be "Vaughan Centre" until politicians started meddling.

Really, VMC should just be renamed "Vaughan Parking/Office Hell".

Also the TTC didn't want to have Downsview and Downsview Park right after each other due to possible confusion. The Crosstown is a Metrolinx project and they have their own naming scheme (which they don't follow sometimes) and for them they want stations to have unique and "meaningful" names. That said early in the project MX said they wouldn't rename pre-existing stations, yet here we are because once again they have a naming scheme which the paid some know-nothing consultant god knows how much money to create and then don't even bother to follow it.

If the Crosstown used the TTC naming scheme then Eglinton West would keep its name and Eglinton would become Eglinton-Yonge (which honestly it still should).

Yet, one of many reasons Toronto is better off if the province stays out of its business.

 

[Steve X]

Some observations about the little details from visiting the new concourse at Cedarvale on opening day:

General Observations:

• Very clean with staff on hand to guide passengers
• The trains were passing by frequently roughly every ~5 minutes or so
• Automated announcements were playing announcing incoming trains on the Line 5 platforms
• Heard a new beeping sound from trains when door opens that’s different from the chime used on streetcars.
• Several retail storefronts in the concourse, hoping we can have some in station shops and food when the line opens
• Washrooms located on concourse

Signage observations:

• Signage is bilingual
• Signs for Line 1 transfers still uses cardinal directions as opposed to the terminal stations - may get confusing with two different directional signs for Line 1 (IE, Line 1 North instead of Line 1 to Vaughan)
• Exits marked with the green ISO “running man” signage instead of the red EXIT
• Curious how the TTC will update the signage when wayfinding harmonization comes around or will it continue to leave the unique line 5 signage in place

I suppose TTC won’t be maintaining the signage on the Crosstown stations. I do think this is a crosslinx job. They are suppose to provide janitors to maintain the stations too.

 

[A 6264]

Two different naming schemes. The Vaughan extension of Line 1 was a TTC project so it follows the TTC's preferred naming scheme. Pioneer Village for example was supposed to be called "Steeles West" and VMC was simply supposed to be "Vaughan Centre" until politicians started meddling. Also the TTC didn't want to have Downsview and Downsview Park right after each other due to possible confusion. The Crosstown is a Metrolinx project and they have their own naming scheme (which they don't follow sometimes) and for them they want stations to have unique and "meaningful" names. That said early in the project MX said they wouldn't rename pre-existing stations, yet here we are because once again they have a naming scheme which the paid some know-nothing consultant god knows how much money to create and then don't even bother to follow it.

If the Crosstown used the TTC naming scheme then Eglinton West would keep its name and Eglinton would become Eglinton-Yonge (which honestly it still should).

I noticed something like that too, when looking up station names for the Danforth expansion to Scarborough Centre, replacing the SRT, on TTC vs. Metrolinx maps.
1. TTC says Lawrence East (reusing a name from the SRT), Metrolinx says Lawrence & McCowan.
2. TTC says McCowan-Sheppard, Metrolinx says Sheppard & McCowan.

 

[Jac.]

I really hope I get to see this open in my lifetime, I mean this genuinely... it feels so close

 

[Dan416]

I noticed something like that too, when looking up station names for the Danforth expansion to Scarborough Centre, replacing the SRT, on TTC vs. Metrolinx maps.
1. TTC says Lawrence East (reusing a name from the SRT), Metrolinx says Lawrence & McCowan.
2. TTC says McCowan-Sheppard, Metrolinx says Sheppard & McCowan.

I have no issue with using intersections as station names (LA does this a lot) but it should be consistent. TTC was already using Sheppard-Yonge and Bloor-Yonge. I hate that Metrolinx used "Jane and Finch" as a station name which messes up the consistency. Nevermind the Eglinton disaster.

In terms of Lawrence East vs Lawrence & McCowan, I think the intersection is much more useful, but the naming scheme inconsistency with TTC usage drives me nuts.

I really don't think Metrolinx's quest for unique station names on local transit lines makes any sense. Buses don't have unique stop names--they just tell you what street the local bus is crossing, or sometimes an address.

 

[GenerationLee]

Agreed. I find Metrolinx's insistence on 'neighbourly' names irritating and confuding, not to mention as you have, inconsistent. Ive never heard of Cedarvale until Metrolinx chose that name, and wuestion the use of their naming convention as opposed to say, street names and landmarks. The Aga Khan stop makes sense, as it applies to a local landmark, but say, Cedarvale or whatever Dufferin is called, does not.