Steve X
Senior Member
Let’s just hope they just didn’t mark that block properly oppose to some systematic bug. Then again, I have no belief they can fix a simple issue quickly
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ElrondHubbard
New Member
When two LRT vehicles collide in the maintenance yard and the line hasn’t opened yet, do they make a sound?
If two Metrolinx executives’ heads collide at a press conference where they declare for the 1500th time they’re making relentless progress, do they sound like two coconuts?
Being more serious, this could be an easy fix if e.g. someone entered bad info that the software relied on. But if the software itself messed up even after being given valid data, that’s a disaster. All bets are off for who knows how much longer?
And how likely are we to learn the difference from Metrolinx? A fart’s chance in a hurricane, is how. What a Charlie Foxtrot.
If two Metrolinx executives’ heads collide at a press conference where they declare for the 1500th time they’re making relentless progress, do they sound like two coconuts?
Being more serious, this could be an easy fix if e.g. someone entered bad info that the software relied on. But if the software itself messed up even after being given valid data, that’s a disaster. All bets are off for who knows how much longer?
And how likely are we to learn the difference from Metrolinx? A fart’s chance in a hurricane, is how. What a Charlie Foxtrot.
Admiral Beez
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turini2
Active Member
turini2
Active Member
Just so I get this right - Line 5 Eglinton will be GoA 2 (automatic train operation, similar to Line 1) in the tunnelled section and GoA 1 on the surface. In the yard, it will be GoA 4 (unattended train operation?
A 6264
Active Member
Edit: I have been corrected; the collision occurred on Thursday, 5 days ago.
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T3G
Senior Member
I'm not sure what you are reading, but the Star article says the accident happened on Thursday. Which jives with the previous report from Smallspy, who says that the testing has been stopped since that day.
Railrunner
Active Member
Just build a real, heavy rail SUBWAY under Eglinton Avenue in Toronto. Forget this tram train trouble it is not worth it and will never work as originally imagined.
Amare
Senior Member
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Obsidian
Active Member
We tried but the province cancelled it and buried the work that had been started.
So it was either LRT or nothing
Bojaxs
Senior Member
That doesn't even begin to make sense. If we could tunnel for an LRT under Eglinton we could have tunneled for a proper subway.
We could have restarted construction on the Eglinton subway had David Miller not been peddling his "Transit City" garbage.
And yes, Mike Harris was wrong to cancel the Eglinton West line.
Steve X
Senior Member
This is not a "LRT" problem but a "subway" problem. This issue has something to do with the CBTC signaling problem which is used on many subways lines around the world.
This crap is bought to us by Metrolinx. I'm pretty sure TTC and what Miller endorse wasn't this crap but a simpler system built based on the downtown streetcars and subway network. The tunnel was suppose to be 30% of the line which made sense for using LRT. It is ML and Ford who wants grade separation and turned it into 70% of the line which they should use subway trains instead.
Under the limited funding Miller could possibly acquire, transit city wasn't a bad plan. There was no why they could afford a full relief line and an Eglinton subway. Miller aimed for equality. He didn't want to just build a small portion of an Eglinton that only a small portion of the city could use. If half of y'all want that, I think you guys are selfish. If that Eglinton subway got built, it'll likely end up building small extensions for the next 30-50 years. So he went for 3 LRT lines: Eglinton, Finch West and Sheppard East, which covers half the suburbs.
How ML handled the project (by taking over all the planning and construction), how Toronto Transportation prioritized cars over transit and possibly TTC operation by invoking slow orders made LRT look bad.
Here we are, over 17 years since Miller reveal Transit City, none of those lines on the map are in operation. Sheppard should have been running LRT trains years ago if that plan gone ahead. Instead they are on buses with no subway construction in sight. We should go ask those subway supports are they satisfied that after 15 years of ripping that plan apart, they still have nothing better than the bus with the SRT shut down. I'm sure some of those supports are in their afterlife now.
Voltz
Senior Member
An Eglinton subway would never have made it past Don Mills, even in this round of transit building, and most likely not past Yonge. There was also no movement for anything on Eglinton until Transit City.
drum118
Superstar
it wasn't Mike Harris that Kill Eglinton, it was the city that did It.
Mike said you have $1 Billion to build one of the 2 subways under contruction which were Eglinton West and Shepper. It was Mel Lastman who was the Mayor of North York who pushed for the Sheppard Line and got it. When Mike merge all the existing Cities and Bourgh's into the New Toronto against the wishes of most people, Mel was elected mayor of the new Toronto. Mel then did arm twisting of councilors to scrap the Eglinton subway and built the white elephant Sheppard Subway.
The Sheppard Subway. was supposed have been built to Victoria Park but the money ran out at Don Mills with Mike say no to extra funds to build the last section