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East of Yonge, one of the biggest draws to Eglinton is the multiple shopping malls that are collectively the Golden Mile. I know that only one building (with a No Frills) offically has that name, but informally it is used to describe the entire strip from Victoria Park to Warden, and maybe even further east.

It's namesake is an industrial area in London: Golden Mile (Brentford) - Wikipedia

According to it's Wikipedia entry the original "Golden Mile of Industry" was from Pharmacy to Birchmount which to my surprise came out to that same distance when I measured.

 

[achandi]

Chaplin and Avenue above ground station boxes on the Line 5 LRT Line on the west side of Yonge Street.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

Over the last few years, more than half the bus stops on 34 have been removed, in order to get closer to matching the Line 5 stops,. Probably it is being done gradually so commuters don't kick up a big fuss if many stops were to disappear all at once. All that is incompatible and unnecessary with a plan to have bus routes continuing to run as a local service. It would only make sense if the stops removed, were to be restored, and I'm certainly not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

East of Yonge, one of the biggest draws to Eglinton is the multiple shopping malls that are collectively the Golden Mile. I know that only one building (with a No Frills) offically has that name, but informally it is used to describe the entire strip from Victoria Park to Warden, and maybe even further east. One of the biggest businesses is Walmart, which no longer has a stop. On the south side, the biggest mall is Eglinton Square, which has a stop a little distance to the east at present, but none at the centre or west end of it. The east stop has, at times, been further east on the far side of Pharmacy, which is where the Line 5 station is, and I have been expecting to see it move back there again. As for the big open shopping area with a Canadian Tire and a movie theatre at the south end, last time I looked, there were no stops really serving that place, because Line 5 does not. In all, this whole section is a really huge shopping area; all it needs is transit with bus stops positioned to service the businesses, but the TTC has been removing stops one by one over the last 5 years, all to bring it down to the spacing of Line 5 stations.

Having a supplemental Eglineton bus is a great idea, but only if it has its former stops restored. If they plan to do that in the end, why have they been taking stops away? The answer hoped for, is that they've had a recent change of mind, and weren't planning on keeping the bus, and now that they are (or might be), the next step is to restore local stops, and treat Line 5 as an express route. I can only hope that this is the plan. And yet, I'd bet it isn't.

The above ground section doesn't need supplementary bus service as all the above ground stops are accessible without elevators or escalators. The section that will need the supplementary bus service the most is between Don Valley Station and Mount Dennis. Should the Escalator/Elevators break down at Don Valley station, for example, the bus would be able to ferry passengers to Sunnybrook Park or Aga Khan stops

 

[Steve X]

The above ground section doesn't need supplementary bus service as all the above ground stops are accessible without elevators or escalators. The section that will need the supplementary bus service the most is between Don Valley Station and Mount Dennis. Should the Escalator/Elevators break down at Don Valley station, for example, the bus would be able to ferry passengers to Sunnybrook Park or Aga Khan stops

To operate a route just in case the elevator breaks down is financially unfeasible. The 149 is there cause the stations haven't got the elevators installed. Even on GO trains, Rough Hill GO's elevator is out of service, they tell you to get off at Guildwood GO and talk to someone to arrange a shuttle to Rough Hill.

 

[Jane2021]

Just wondering like how Eglinton has the new bus routes already posted on poles does Finch West have any of the new bus routes already posted on poles?

 

[Jonny5]

Even on GO trains, Rough Hill GO's elevator is out of service, they tell you to get off at Guildwood GO and talk to someone to arrange a shuttle to Rough Hill.

I would be red with anger at being treated so rough there.

 

[zang]

I would be red with anger at being treated so rough there.

Welcome to accessibility in Canada. It’s never been a true priority, and ultimately just becomes a generic checkbox to be crossed off during construction.

 

[smallspy]

I am betting the 34 will be pretty popular once people realize how much walking and stair climbing they need to do to access those stations.

Have you ever taken the 97?

The 34 will operate as emptily as the 97 does.

Even on GO trains, Rough Hill GO's elevator is out of service, they tell you to get off at Guildwood GO and talk to someone to arrange a shuttle to Rough Hill.

This a gross simplification verging on lying.

They will ask the passenger to get off at the next station, yes. But they are then told to report to the station attendant, who will arrange a ride back to their destination.

If there is no attendant on duty, the CSA is supposed to call into Commuter Central who will arrange things.

Just wondering like how Eglinton has the new bus routes already posted on poles does Finch West have any of the new bus routes already posted on poles?

There are several thousand stops around the City that need to be changed ahead of the opening of the two LRT lines, so they are giving themselves time to update all of the affected stops ahead of revenue service starting.

They've changed many of the stops not just on Eglinton, but also on many of the streets that cross it as well - but not all of them yet. I suspect that since they've been doing this since December that they've done something similar on Finch West, although admittedly I don't get up there much these days and so have not seen it in person.

Dan

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

To operate a route just in case the elevator breaks down is financially unfeasible. The 149 is there cause the stations haven't got the elevators installed. Even on GO trains, Rough Hill GO's elevator is out of service, they tell you to get off at Guildwood GO and talk to someone to arrange a shuttle to Rough Hill.

if the financial feasibility was the primary concern they wouldn't operate the 97 Yonge bus, yet they do.

 

[dowlingm]

if the financial feasibility was the primary concern they wouldn't operate the 97 Yonge bus, yet they do.

And yet there is no parallel bus service on Line 2, or Line 1 west half. While I'm actually a proponent of infill bus routes to increase permeability of higher order routes, even if overlapping but not truly parallel (e.g. 51-56 combination), it is not now a policy of the TTC to operate buses solely on the offchance an elevator is down.
(Edit to correct 54 to 56)

 

[PL1]

And yet there is no parallel bus service on Line 2, or Line 1 west half. While I'm actually a proponent of infill bus routes to increase permeability of higher order routes, even if overlapping but not truly parallel (e.g. 51-54 combination), it is not now a policy of the TTC to operate buses solely on the offchance an elevator is down.

I suspect that is because Line 2 stations (Jane to Main) are roughly 800 m apart. Of course, the 300 overnight bus does make additional stops.

 

[robmausser]

I suspect that is because Line 2 stations (Jane to Main) are roughly 800 m apart. Of course, the 300 overnight bus does make additional stops.

This is exactly why. The 97 Bus only exists because the original TTC plan of stations at Blythwood and Yonge Blvd (or nearby I forget the exact streets) were met with opposition both from NIMBYS in the area and rising costs. The stations are quite far apart, and besides the North York Centre infill, continue to be far apart to Finch.

One could argue that Line 2 actually has too many stations that limit its effectiveness as a rapid transit system.

 

[drum118]

And yet there is no parallel bus service on Line 2, or Line 1 west half. While I'm actually a proponent of infill bus routes to increase permeability of higher order routes, even if overlapping but not truly parallel (e.g. 51-54 combination), it is not now a policy of the TTC to operate buses solely on the offchance an elevator is down.

Look the the spacing between stations and divide by 2 to see the radius for the stations. 400-600m spacing between all types of stops in place of 100-250m to the point some areas can see 1000m due to what is there in the first place.

I guess you miss the 97 for Yonge parallel bus service with part of it not service outside of peak. Until line 5 is extended to Renforth, the 34 will do well on that section after 5 opens and be the same as the 97 for the open section of Line 5.

Both the 97 and 34 will run poorly and are there in case an elevator goes down to service the accessibility community. This is what we get when there is only one elevator per station in place of two that should have been there on day one..

As for Line 2, you will need far more buses to service that line than 1 do to only one lane of traffic and stations more close than 1 north of Eglinton and St George. Can't run parallel bus service for the Spadina section to York Region.

The problem for a fair number of stations on Line 2, they connect to N-S bus routes as well streetcars.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I remember using the 4 ANNETTE trolley bus when the Bloor-Danforth Subway (Line 2) was down because of the Christie Subway fire (October 15-17, 1976). With 6 minute headway, it still provided good enough supplementary service when the subway was unavailable. There were shuttle buses along Bloor Street West, but the 4 ANNETTE trolley bus was better, going along Dupont & Annette. It's replacement, the 26 DUPONT bus has a 30 minute headway, making it a very poor substitute.

From https://digitalarchive.tpl.ca/objects/360180/burnedout-ruins-of-four-bloor-subways-cars-are-examined-by


See https://transittoronto.ca/bus/8119.shtml

 

[APTA-2048]

This a gross simplification verging on lying.

They will ask the passenger to get off at the next station, yes. But they are then told to report to the station attendant, who will arrange a ride back to their destination.

If there is no attendant on duty, the CSA is supposed to call into Commuter Central who will arrange things.

To add: they have a contracted accessible shuttle bus on standby, so there is a minimal wait.