[TOtramz]

Operator training involves things such as:
- learning the equipment
- learning the route
- learning any short turns
- learning how to deal with disablements
Some of these items are done in the equipment, but a lot of it is not. Of the 30 days of training required for the line, only about a dozen are done on the equipment, and half of that is done at the throttle.

At this point 2 full sets of classes of operators have now completed training, and my understanding is that the third is well on their way, too. But once that is done, the TTC has a requirement for simulating service for 2 board periods. This allows them to ensure that the schedule is realistic (and if it isn't, gives them some time to fix it), that the equipment works properly, that the operators know not just how to run the line but also how to deal with the inevitable problems that will arise, etc.

We're not quite at that "2 board periods" point yet, but getting close. So in the meantime, the crews who are fully trained are out on the line operating the equipment in advance of the simulated service, as well as performing some tests that Metrolinx has come up with in order to prep the line for the final countdown to revenue service.

Dan

Do you think they will be ready to start simulation by the June 22 new board period?

 

[nfitz]

No way for me to verify or anything so pure speculation/rumour but I heard from a coworker who's friend works(or worked) at SNC Lavalin that one of the stations water table was measured once and is now much higher than when measured causing lots of problems. I'm not educated at all in this field so couldn't tell you what that means tbh.

Either provide proof, or be quiet. Noone here is a fan of SNCorrupt Lavalin/Atkins Realis but these highly speculative, if not libellous statements are completely unproductive and not conducive for a constructive discussion on this forum.

I see nothing in this post that assigned blame to anyone (in theory it could be related to weather conditions or other changes in the area). So no need to start defending Atkins Fraudulis yet. Did they even do the pre-design water levels - a lot of this was done long before Crosslinx were contracted.

I did see a condo basement recently that was having water leakage issues - and suddenly one day the water was mostly gone (pumping rates way down). When they mentioned it to me, I asked if the new building site next door had started dewatering yet. And yes, they had.

If it happened in reverse, then it's possible that water levels were measured during an adjacent dewatering projects that has since ended. Which could still be incompetence, as there's long-term records of water levels just about anywhere - especially on a corridor like Eglinton. And such dewatering permits can be looked up in seconds on a public website (as if the hole in the ground wasn't enough of a give-away).

But for much engineering work like this you pay what you get, and there's little PEO enforcement unless something falls down and people die.

 

[A 6264]

Telling fellow posters to "be quiet" , especially in response to grumblings about transparency, etc., just won't fly. If you are concerned that something posted on the forum is so libellous that the site's lawyers may demand that it be removed, just report it, and see what happens. If nothing happens, you were upset over nothing. We really don't need self appointed nannies. The way the internet is supposed to work, is that when people post things that aren't true, others correct them, and we move on. No need to shame others for posting their opinions in the first place. This post is not intended to offend; I'm not taking note of who said what, or getting personal on anyone, it's just a general rule for all of us, for getting along. Peace!

 

[SaugeenJunction]

Not to piss on everyone's parade, but Ford clearly doesn't definitively confirm it'll open in sept.

I therefore choose to temper my expectations, tho if it does open in Sept. It'll confirm my expectation that the public annoucment meant to happen 3 months ahead of its opening is and was total BS (shocker i know).

I also, now wonder wth is holding up finch LRT, because from what we know, the hangup there is not technical and testing appears to be full steam ahead

This government has been super cagey about an opening date for the last few years. I’d suspect they are pretty confident that September is possible for the Premier to come out and say it. Time will tell!

 

[T3G]

One would assume, if Metrostinks were concerned about libellous statements, that perhaps they would offer their own take on things to counter any possible bad PR. If they don't like what is being posted on the internet about their projects, they have only themselves to blame. Secrecy is a breeding ground for speculation.

 

[bono47]

Not to piss on everyone's parade, but Ford clearly doesn't definitively confirm it'll open in sept.

I therefore choose to temper my expectations, tho if it does open in Sept. It'll confirm my expectation that the public annoucment meant to happen 3 months ahead of its opening is and was total BS (shocker i know).

I also, now wonder wth is holding up finch LRT, because from what we know, the hangup there is not technical and testing appears to be full steam ahead

As far I as my understanding- Finch is 100% done, waiting for drivers to be trained on Eg before moving over to Finch. TTC is being difficult, leveraging their union to fight every little detail that isn't to their liking and Metrolinx has limited recourse to speed up the timeline, Sounds like labor hiring has been a bit of a challenge as well.

That's just what I've heard from a few people closer to the project, don't shoot the messenger.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

As far I as my understanding- Finch is 100% done, waiting for drivers to be trained on Eg before moving over to Finch. TTC is being difficult, leveraging their union to fight every little detail that isn't to their liking and Metrolinx has limited recourse to speed up the timeline, Sounds like labor hiring has been a bit of a challenge as well.

That's just what I've heard from a few people closer to the project, don't shoot the messenger.

Finch W and Eglinton were always going to share an operator pool, that's why they are both managed under Black Creek Division. There is a difficulty more broadly with hiring more operators post-COVID as every transit agency region-wide has had to hire all-new operators in the post-COVID era rebuild to pre-COVID service levels.

 

[Islington Express Bus]

TTC is being difficult, leveraging their union to fight every little detail that isn't to their liking

How exactly does the TTC "leverage their union". The TTC union is not the TTC. Their literal job is to oppose each other.

 

[Metroscapes]

No way for me to verify or anything so pure speculation/rumour but I heard from a coworker who's friend works(or worked) at SNC Lavalin that one of the stations water table was measured once and is now much higher than when measured causing lots of problems. I'm not educated at all in this field so couldn't tell you what that means tbh.

Not shocking. We had a fairly wet spring. In my neck of the woods I have seen higher baseflows in the rivers and creeks from the higher shallow water tables, and some instances of people complaining about ponding in low-lying areas.

Either provide proof, or be quiet. Noone here is a fan of SNCorrupt Lavalin/Atkins Realis but these highly speculative, if not libellous statements are completely unproductive and not conducive for a constructive discussion on this forum.

Unnecessary and offbase.

Many of the former streams are now sewers. However, they can be subject to overflow as a result of storms or big rainfalls. See https://www.lostrivers.ca/content/EglintonParkReach.html
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Even more rainfall water because of parking lots, roofs, and wide roadways have to go somewhere.

This is not the issue. (well perhaps at TTC Union).

Maybe not an issue if a structure is expected to withstand the water table, but it's certainly a contributor to the environmental condition. I know I'm nitpicking here.

 

[kthing]

Either provide proof, or be quiet. Noone here is a fan of SNCorrupt Lavalin/Atkins Realis but these highly speculative, if not libellous statements are completely unproductive and not conducive for a constructive discussion on this forum.

Not sure why your feelings are so hurt. If you read my post again it says "pure speculation/rumour" and was only meant to drive discussion. I even said I wasn't educated in this field and the other members, unlike yourself, have replied with quite educational posts, so thank you to everyone but you.

 

[cplchanb]

 

[smallspy]

As far I as my understanding- Finch is 100% done, waiting for drivers to be trained on Eg before moving over to Finch. TTC is being difficult, leveraging their union to fight every little detail that isn't to their liking and Metrolinx has limited recourse to speed up the timeline, Sounds like labor hiring has been a bit of a challenge as well.

That's just what I've heard from a few people closer to the project, don't shoot the messenger.

This is not quite what has happened on Finch West.

There were issues with the project between Metrolinx and Mosaic which resulted in Mosaic delaying the handover of certain components of the project to Metrolinx. Those delays directly impacted the TTC, as they were not allowed to occupy the premises and thus it delayed the start their own training and setup.

Those issues have since been resolved, and the TTC is now training operators on the line. They've already trained other staff there.

While from an operations standpoint Finch West and the Crosstown are considered one division and so operators can sign work on either line, the differences between the two lines are substantial enough that the training course for operators is different between the two. The third set of classes was planned at one point to only be trained on Finch West, although I don't know if that is still the case. In any case, operators from the first two sets of classes will be allowed to go through a shorter course to allow them to become certified on Finch West at some point in the future.

Dan

 

[urbanclient]

No way for me to verify or anything so pure speculation/rumour but I heard from a coworker who's friend works(or worked) at SNC Lavalin that one of the stations water table was measured once and is now much higher than when measured causing lots of problems. I'm not educated at all in this field so couldn't tell you what that means tbh.

What you did was regurgitate and rehash information that has been posted to this thread at least half a dozen times. On this thread, we knew about the water leaks at Eglinton Station (Yonge and Eglinton) well over a year ago, water table, rusted out due to water, station box sinking etc... What you said was not a meaningful contribution at all to anyone who didn't join this thread yesterday. Noone is trying to suppress your free speech, but your information is most obviously not new (which you did not even acknowledge) and therefore not useful. "My grandma's 5th cousin who knows a guy told me through the grapevine that SNC Lavalin / Atkins Realis was throwing stripper parties Gaddafi's son-style in Eglinton LRT station. Too much champagne was spilled so the tracks got rusted out and the overhead and communications wiring shorted out so it all had to be redone."

 

[kthing]

What you did was regurgitate and rehash information that has been posted to this thread at least half a dozen times. On this thread, we knew about the water leaks at Eglinton Station (Yonge and Eglinton) well over a year ago, water table, rusted out due to water, station box sinking etc... What you said was not a meaningful contribution at all to anyone who didn't join this thread yesterday. Noone is trying to suppress your free speech, but your information is most obviously not new (which you did not even acknowledge) and therefore not useful. "My grandma's 5th cousin who knows a guy told me through the grapevine that SNC Lavalin / Atkins Realis was throwing stripper parties Gaddafi's son-style in Eglinton LRT station. Too much champagne was spilled so the tracks got rusted out and the overhead and communications wiring shorted out so it all had to be redone."

You've obviously been on this forum and thread long enough to know the history but it was my post that pushed you over the line to create an account and start posting hate.
I have my first internet hater, I've finally made it on the internet.

 

[hawc]

SNC Lavalin / Atkins Realis was throwing stripper parties Gaddafi's son-style in Eglinton LRT station. Too much champagne was spilled so the tracks got rusted out and the overhead and communications wiring shorted out so it all had to be redone.

Is this true?