[SkyScraaaper]

hopefully this can ease some of the more distraught members minds a bit. I live across the street from a station and was waiting for a bus yesterday, when I saw a Crosslinx worker exiting the station. I asked him when is it supposed to open and he said he heard September. So following Metrolinks 3 month rule, we should hear about the opening date in June.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

hopefully this can ease some of the more distraught members minds a bit. I live across the street from a station and was waiting for a bus yesterday, when I saw a Crosslinx worker exiting the station. I asked him when is it supposed to open and he said he heard September. So following Metrolinks 3 month rule, we should hear about the opening date in June.

Will be waiting for black or white smoke from the Metrolinx chapel (boardroom) by the start of June...

 

[unrealestate]

Notre Dame Cathedral, La Sagrada Familla, The Great Pyramid of Giza, The Crosstown LRT. Amazing human achievements

 

[SkyScraaaper]

Notre Dame Cathedral, La Sagrada Familla, The Great Pyramid of Giza, The Crosstown LRT. Amazing human achievements

 

[Cyrobyte]

Notre Dame Cathedral, La Sagrada Familla, The Great Pyramid of Giza, The Crosstown LRT. Amazing human achievements

The Eglinton line costs more than each of those.

EDIT: It probably costs more than all three combined (adjusted for inflation) but who knows how much the Great Pyramid of Giza costed.

 

[zang]

Notre Dame Cathedral, La Sagrada Familla, The Great Pyramid of Giza, The Crosstown LRT. Amazing human achievements

Well, it’s certainly taking as long as La Sagrada Familia.

 

[UT69420J]

Well, it’s certainly taking as long as La Sagrada Familia.

at this rate, we're gonna get GTA 6 before the crosstown lrt

 

[evandyk]

Possibly 7, as well as Civilization 8.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Well that definetely confirms that revenue service demonstration has not begun yet.....

No way those are the revenue service hours!

If recent Ottawa projects are any example (not sure if the did this in KW) there was a big ramp up in testing before the actual revenue service demonstration. They don't want to fail the demo, as it affects the contract,so the "dress rehearsal of the dress rehearsal" runs for a while. But it's a good sign anyway.

Our similar digital signs showed a variety of different things during that period, but the final version was only near the very end of testing

 

[zang]

Possibly 7, as well as Civilization 8.

Naw, Half Life 3.

Legit, actually.

 

[kaptrice]

Does anyone really believe Westbound service starts more than an hour and a half after Eastbound?

It takes some time to get all the way to Kennedy from the EMSF, although not nearly that long.

 

[crs1026]

It takes some time to get all the way to Kennedy from the EMSF, although not nearly that long.

Which supports my theory that they were drawing from the training schedule for that day.

One thing I have noted from watching the training/testing runs is, operators coasting towards stale green traffic signals, waiting for the light to turn yellow so they can stop and wait thru a light cycle. Possibly the training schedule is slower and this keeps them from getting ahead of schedule....or perhaps operators don't trust the signals yet.... but in service, trams need to be kept moving and the schedule should be tight enough to discourage this.

It's still early days, but I fear this is a sign of old TTC culture already creeping into the new line. If operators develop this habit during training, Crosstown will indeed devolve to "just another streetcar" with longer trip times. We need a subway culture where operators are expected to run on every green.

- Paul

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

June has 30 days. We are now in the 3 month "window" to "announce" Line 5 opening in September, allegedly. Will be watching the "chimney" of the Metrolinx chapel (boardroom) for signs of the announcement.

 

[cplchanb]

Which supports my view that they were drawing from the training schedule for that day.

One thing I have noted from watching the training/testing runs is, operators coasting towards stale green traffic signals, waiting for the light to turn yellow so they can stop and wait thru a light cycle. Possibly the training schedule is slower and this keeps them from getting ahead of schedule....or perhaps operators don't trust the signals yet.... but in service, trams need to be kept moving and the schedule should be tight enough to discourage this.

It's still early days, but I fear this is a sign of old TTC culture already creeping into the new line. If operators develop this habit during training, Crosstown will indeed devolve to "just another streetcar" with longer trip times. We need a subway culture where operators are expected to run on every green.

- Paul

If anything they need to reprogram the light signals to not prematurely turn red and sync it with the road lights at the very least. Its bonkers how trains are held at intersections by a red why cars are still zooming by.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

If anything they need to reprogram the light signals to not prematurely turn red and sync it with the road lights at the very least. Its bonkers how trains are held at intersections by a red why cars are still zooming by.

The other problem is the use of regular traffic signals with English verbage sign clutter for the transit signals. People still mix up signals and will move on the transit signal. In the rest of the world, they use specific transit signals, and without the sign clutter. But Toronto (or more likely MTO) refuses to update their highway/road/transit signals. And no gate arms in Toronto to stop traffic for the light rail vehicles/streetcars because it would upset the car drivers.