[evandyk]

Q1/2/3/4??? dec 31 2025??

It's a few pages up now, but someone found a minuted comment in TTC agenda materials saying Q2 or 3.

 

[stevedean]

What, you think the station spacing should be further apart? And those with mobility challenges should do what?

If you wanted buses off Eglinton, you should be advocating for closer stop spacing.

Yes the buses are specifically meant to help people with mobility issues reach the in-between spots between stations. Plus, what about pregnant women, people with baby strollers, women out late at night who feel safer not walking long distances. Not sure why that's "hilarious" to some... Not exactly surprising from the guy who spreads unsubstantiated rumours here...

 

[bono47]

Verster just mentioned that they've completed 96% of the testing and confirmed that the line will open next year

link please.

 

[KAR246]

link please.

It was most likely during today's Metrolinx board meeting during the CEO's report:

Meeting 2024-11-28

Learn more about the Board of Directors' agenda for Thursday, November 28, 2024.

www.metrolinx.com

 

[Rogue2016]

Around the 19 minute mark Verster mentions opening in the new year (no specific quarter) but mentions 'revenue demonstration service' (his voice wasn't clear at that point) early in the new year, so, that at least sounds promising.

 

[Ozman]

It's too bad that the OP didn't post a better photo, as the really interesting part of the stop was cropped out of it.

Where the route flags are shown, at the top is now one for the route 5 shuttle bus.


While I agree with running a paralleling route along the underground section of the line - where the stations are further apart - it was and is a silly decision to operate the 34 east of Don Mills, where it will make the exact same stops (save for perhaps 4) as the LRT.

Just like it was and is a silly decision to route the Mount Pleasant and Avenue Road buses in to Yonge/Eglinton.

Dan

Ok Dan, since no one else has mentioned it yet; I'll bite. What is "the route 5 shuttle bus"? Are you referring to route 34 which parallels line 5 and (which I agree with you), is unnecessary east of Science Centre station? Or is there another sticker completely out of the picture to the top? Is this to show where a shuttle bus would stop if (and only if) replacement buses were needed in case of a Line 5 shutdown?

If they are putting up permanent signage for an (emergency) shuttle it doesn't show a lot of confidence in the reliability of the brand new LRT line, IMHO.

 

[bono47]

Around the 19 minute mark Verster mentions opening in the new year (no specific quarter) but mentions 'revenue demonstration service' (his voice wasn't clear at that point) early in the new year, so, that at least sounds promising.

That would put us on a March/April timeline assuming 2-3 months of revenue service demonstration beginning in January.

 

[generalcanada]

I do wonder when the handoff with the contractor is? Or i think the term is "substantial completion"

 

[KevinT]

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Yeah, my 84-year old mother who has never driven is going to be all over that...

 

[nfitz]

I do wonder when the handoff with the contractor is? Or i think the term is "substantial completion"

With 30 or so years of maintenance, the handoff would be about 2055!

I"m not sure traditional milestones apply.

 

[EYorker]

Ok Dan, since no one else has mentioned it yet; I'll bite. What is "the route 5 shuttle bus"? Are you referring to route 34 which parallels line 5 and (which I agree with you), is unnecessary east of Science Centre station? Or is there another sticker completely out of the picture to the top? Is this to show where a shuttle bus would stop if (and only if) replacement buses were needed in case of a Line 5 shutdown?

If they are putting up permanent signage for an (emergency) shuttle it doesn't show a lot of confidence in the reliability of the brand new LRT line, IMHO.

There is another sticker at the top. And yes, it is to indicate where to board said shuttle bus if the LRT happens to be down for whatever reason.

This is standard across Line 1, 2, 3 (when it was still open) and 4. The surface stops closest to station entrances have a sticker for shuttle buses. Here's an example for Chester station on Danforth https://maps.app.goo.gl/1quDHUpE723rDK8R7

 

[T3G]

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When Toronto City Council stops being afraid of those like of their own shadows, we'll talk.

And it's still not a solution for those with mobility challenges and who don't have 4 hours to piss away every time they want to go somewhere.

 

[T3G]

I think the average underground for the Crosstown will be 850m, which puts you no further than 425m from a stop if you're on Eglinton. That's similar to a lot of the stop spacing on line 2, such as the distance between Ossington-Dufferin or Lansdowne-Dundas W.

Indeed, but the posts to which I was replying were saying those stops were still too close.

(Side note: if the mods see fit to merge the two posts here I made, please do so ... for some reason the post merger feature no longer seems to work?)

 

[hawc]

Yes the buses are specifically meant to help people with mobility issues reach the in-between spots between stations. Plus, what about pregnant women, people with baby strollers, women out late at night who feel safer not walking long distances. Not sure why that's "hilarious" to some... Not exactly surprising from the guy who spreads unsubstantiated rumours here...

Word on the street...

 

[smallspy]

I think the average underground for the Crosstown will be 850m, which puts you no further than 425m from a stop if you're on Eglinton. That's similar to a lot of the stop spacing on line 2, such as the distance between Ossington-Dufferin or Lansdowne-Dundas W.

And what if you're not on Eglinton?

Ok Dan, since no one else has mentioned it yet; I'll bite. What is "the route 5 shuttle bus"? Are you referring to route 34 which parallels line 5 and (which I agree with you), is unnecessary east of Science Centre station? Or is there another sticker completely out of the picture to the top? Is this to show where a shuttle bus would stop if (and only if) replacement buses were needed in case of a Line 5 shutdown?

Much like with routes 1, 2 and 4, there are surface stops identified along their routes that indicate where shuttle buses - when they are needed - will stop.

There will also be such stops for Line 5. The stops have an orange flag at the top indicating it as such, with the other routes (34 and 334) below.

If they are putting up permanent signage for an (emergency) shuttle it doesn't show a lot of confidence in the reliability of the brand new LRT line, IMHO.

It's just their new standard of signage at surface transit stops. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do wonder when the handoff with the contractor is? Or i think the term is "substantial completion"

"Substantial Completion" is a contractual term that usually indicates that the object being built is ready and able for use/occupation/etc., but that the contractor is not 100% complete with the entirety of the project. It could be a simple as having them demobilize from the site, or it may be as complex as finishing up more extensive items such as landscaping, restoration of the surrounding area, etc. - i.e things that are important but not of any significance to the utility of the object.

I don't know the specifics of the Crosstown's contract, but I suspect that Substantial Completion would involve handover to Metrolinx, who would then need to do their own things to it before handing it over to the TTC.

Dan