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^ And whatever time gained by increasing track speed would be wasted... because a train leaving the platform would not trigger the gates until it was moving, and it would then have to crawl until the gates were all the way down.

- Paul
 
smallspy said:
They do in Philly. They do in Boston. They do in San Fran.
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Philly very much treats the subway surface lines as a part of the trolley network, and not as part of the High Speed network alongside the BSL, MFL, and NHSL.
MUNI Metro is entirely light rail, with BART being the metro service that is run by a separate agency, and very much considered its own separate thing.

Finally, looking at Boston they pretend the Silver Line (which is a BRT system where much of it runs in mixed traffic) is part of the T the same way that the Metro Lines are. If anything, Boston is a prime example of what not to do in terms of wayfinding. I'd argue the same for other north american cities that do this like Los Angeles.
 
crs1026 said:
^ And whatever time gained by increasing track speed would be wasted... because a train leaving the platform would not trigger the gates until it was moving, and it would then have to crawl until the gates were all the way down.

- Paul
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could they not program the gates to automatically deploy or delayed deployment upon sensing the train arriving at the platform? dwell time probably would be around 30s so if they can program the gates to drop 15s after sensing the train stop at the platform there will be no delay.
 
I suspect the gates work much along this line. They likely detect a train back before it enters the platform, triggering the gates to protect the scenario where the train does not stop. At some point the gates detect that the train is stopping and activation cancels.
The problem is the lead time needed to reactivate when the stopped train proceeds. It cannot accelerate until the gates are fully lowered. I suspect it will creep for a short time while the gates lower.
On freight railways, there is sometimes a pushbutton on the platform that the crew can use to begin the gate sequence… or it can be done by radio command. In transit context, that’s probably not practical.

- Paul
 

Eglinton Crosstown LRT​

Construction Notice
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One Lane of Alternating Traffic on Eglinton Avenue and Yonge Street for Curb, Sidewalk, and Road Restoration Works​

As early as Friday, November 3, 2023​

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What Work is Taking Place?
As early as Friday, November 3, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. and continuing through until approximately Monday, November 6, 2023, at 7:00 a.m., crews at Eglinton Station will be performing curb, sidewalk, and road restoration works on Eglinton Avenue and Yonge Street. To facilitate this work safely, eastbound and westbound traffic on Eglinton Avenue will be reduced to one alternating lane at Yonge Street. Northbound and southbound traffic on Yonge Street will be reduced to one alternating lane at Eglinton Avenue. Flaggers and a Paid Duty Officer will be present to help facilitate traffic movements. This work will take place on a 24-hour basis. Upon completion of this work, short term lane reductions may be required on Eglinton Avenue to facilitate special activities. Please review the complete notice or visit www.metrolinx.com/eglintoncrosstownlrt for more information.

What to Expect
Noise from construction activities can be expected. Concrete barriers, fencing, and signage will be in place to delineate the work zones. One lane of alternating traffic will be in place on Eglinton Avenue and Yonge Street. Traffic control personnel and Paid Duty Officer will be present when this work takes place. Expect delays while traveling through the area.

HOURS OF WORK
• As early as Friday, November 3, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. and ongoing until approximately Monday, November 6, 2023, at 7:00 a.m.
• Work is expected to take place on a 24-hour basis.
• Work may be rescheduled due to inclement weather or unforeseen circumstances.
• Work may be longer or shorter than expected.

TRAFFIC DETAILS
• Eastbound and westbound traffic on Eglinton Avenue will be reduced to one alternating lane at Yonge Street.
• Northbound and southbound traffic on Yonge Street will be reduced to one alternating lane at Eglinton Avenue.
• Flaggers and a Paid Duty Officer will be present to help facilitate traffic movements.

PEDESTRIAN DETAILS
• No changes to the current pedestrian routes are expected as a result of this work.

TRANSIT INFORMATION
• Access to TTC will be maintained at all times.
• Please visit www.ttc.ca for more information.
 
drum118 said:

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Eglinton Crosstown LRT​

Construction Notice


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One Lane of Alternating Traffic on Eglinton Avenue and Yonge Street for Curb, Sidewalk, and Road Restoration Works​

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As early as Friday, November 3, 2023​

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What Work is Taking Place?
As early as Friday, November 3, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. and continuing through until approximately Monday, November 6, 2023, at 7:00 a.m., crews at Eglinton Station will be performing curb, sidewalk, and road restoration works on Eglinton Avenue and Yonge Street. To facilitate this work safely, eastbound and westbound traffic on Eglinton Avenue will be reduced to one alternating lane at Yonge Street. Northbound and southbound traffic on Yonge Street will be reduced to one alternating lane at Eglinton Avenue. Flaggers and a Paid Duty Officer will be present to help facilitate traffic movements. This work will take place on a 24-hour basis. Upon completion of this work, short term lane reductions may be required on Eglinton Avenue to facilitate special activities. Please review the complete notice or visit www.metrolinx.com/eglintoncrosstownlrt for more information.

What to Expect
Noise from construction activities can be expected. Concrete barriers, fencing, and signage will be in place to delineate the work zones. One lane of alternating traffic will be in place on Eglinton Avenue and Yonge Street. Traffic control personnel and Paid Duty Officer will be present when this work takes place. Expect delays while traveling through the area.

HOURS OF WORK
• As early as Friday, November 3, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. and ongoing until approximately Monday, November 6, 2023, at 7:00 a.m.
• Work is expected to take place on a 24-hour basis.
• Work may be rescheduled due to inclement weather or unforeseen circumstances.
• Work may be longer or shorter than expected.

TRAFFIC DETAILS
• Eastbound and westbound traffic on Eglinton Avenue will be reduced to one alternating lane at Yonge Street.
• Northbound and southbound traffic on Yonge Street will be reduced to one alternating lane at Eglinton Avenue.
• Flaggers and a Paid Duty Officer will be present to help facilitate traffic movements.

PEDESTRIAN DETAILS
• No changes to the current pedestrian routes are expected as a result of this work.

TRANSIT INFORMATION
• Access to TTC will be maintained at all times.
• Please visit www.ttc.ca for more information.

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I can't imagine what this has been like these past 10-12 years for those living on or abutting Eglinton.
 
On the stretch of Eglinton betwen Yonge and Cowbell Lane, they're backfilling the street now which is to be expected given the notice shwon above and the final rebuilding and repaving of Eglinton along here.
On various stretched of sidewalk and roadway, they've been occasionally ripping out new sections to fix connections with utilities and pavement deficiencies (likely part of the list of things to fix mentioned in prior press releases)

I just went by to the 7-11 not even an hour ago, and its completely surrounded with construction atm, as Cowbell Lane is fully closed from Eglinton while the Salvation Army is being cladded and the previously mentioned work goes on.
It's been an interesting couple years seeing this work go on, which has only reaffirmed my gratefulness for not living any closer to this intersection than I do.
 
toronto647 said:
Anyone have an update when the next Eglinton LRT update will be in November? Also will Phil Vester announce the opening date this time?

Are we still looking at December 2024 as per the reports published?
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There is a board meeting on November 30th. Since the last update was in September if they did the update on the 30th it would fulfill their update "every two months" commitment.
 
toronto647 said:
Anyone have an update when the next Eglinton LRT update will be in November? Also will Phil Vester announce the opening date this time?

Are we still looking at December 2024 as per the reports published?
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If you think the line will open by the end of the year, not going to happen,

It may open late Q1 2024 to Mid Q2 or later

As noted, there is a board meeting at the end of the moth and we will heard some type of update to announcement at it.

One has to look at various station to see where thing are stating with Yonge to get an idea when the line will open.. When people can walk underground at Yonge like they did in the past, a good sign the line is close to be ready or is ready to see service.
 
drum118 said:
If you think the line will open by the end of the year, not going to happen,

It may open late Q1 2024 to Mid Q2 or later

As noted, there is a board meeting at the end of the moth and we will heard some type of update to announcement at it.

One has to look at various station to see where thing are stating with Yonge to get an idea when the line will open.. When people can walk underground at Yonge like they did in the past, a good sign the line is close to be ready or is ready to see service.
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Late Q2 at the absolute earliest. But my money is on Q3 or Q4 realistically.
 
Is it petty politics to try to figure out who's going to run the line? Seems like a pretty important thing to figure out. What value is there in a completed infrastructure project if it can't be used?

Now, all of that being said... can someone who knows more about economics than me please explain how it is possible that a city where so much of the country's economic activity is generated is having so much money troubles?
 
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