[sixrings]

I stated that there was room for improvement. However this still doesn't negate the fact that there are cultural institutions in this neighbourhood that have been in place for the last half century. Whether you chose to engage them or not.

Not saying I'm opposed to change. What I was saying is that I hope this will not become another gentrified boring strip with few businesses of cultural significance.

Eglinton at Oakwood has seen it's share of events, but it's not a point of significance on Toronto's shooting map. I see your subtle jab and I won't be race baited.

I'd also like to point out that I grew up near Eglinton east and Brimley for a time in Scarborough. There were two local arcades side by side in a strip plaza. I miss arcades by the way. Anyways the clientel was not any particular race. But the arcade would stay open much later than the surrounding businesses. Guess what. There was shootings and stabbings back then as well. Part of me doesn't think it's the businesses as much as it is the fact they are open so much later than anything else around it attracts people who should be at home. And then we get the shootings. I don't know why McDonald's can stay open late, or Wendy's... but for whatever reason these businesses that are open later than traditional businesses do tend to attract people who are up to no good. It is true I am white but my wife who is Guyanese does not feel comfortable walking this part of Eglinton.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Sad news...

Yitz’s Jewish Deli to Close After 47 Years

See link.

The news was announced on the deli’s Facebook account in a post that reads, “To our loyal customers, dear friends and deli-lovers, we are sad to announce that our storefront at 346 Eglinton Avenue West will be closing on December 1, 2019. Thank you for 47 years of support. It has been our honour and privilege to serve you pastrami, matzoh ball soup, rugelach, latkes and everything in between. We are exploring catering options to bring our recipes back to your tables in 2020. Stay tuned.”

According to BlogTO, Yitz’s owners had expressed concerns regarding the impact the Eglinton Crosstown LRT construction was having on the business.

 

[Richard White]

Sad news...

Yitz’s Jewish Deli to Close After 47 Years

See link.

I'm not surprised. There are more than a few businesses on the east end of the route (VP to Kennedy) that left because of low store traffic.

Right now it is impossible to get anywhere on Eglinton between VP and Kennedy without taking the sidestreets which are already slammed.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

I'm not surprised. There are more than a few businesses on the east end of the route (VP to Kennedy) that left because of low store traffic.

Right now it is impossible to get anywhere on Eglinton between VP and Kennedy without taking the sidestreets which are already slammed.

Absolutely.

Before the Crosstown construction, I would walk along Eglinton, visiting shops almost daily,. Now the road feels so treacherous and hostile that I essentially never walk along Eglinton (it's been months). If I intend to visit a store on Eglinton, I'll hop in the car and drive straight to whatever store I wanted to visit. I'm sure this has resulted in me spending less money at the businesses. I wish it weren't this way, but it Eglinton does not feel safe to walk on. Heck, it hardly feels safe to drive on.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Absolutely.

Before the Crosstown construction, I would walk along Eglinton, visiting shops almost daily,. Now the road feels so treacherous and hostile that I essentially never walk along Eglinton (it's been months). If I intend to visit a store on Eglinton, I'll hop in the car and drive straight to whatever store I wanted to visit. I'm sure this has resulted in me spending less money at the businesses. I wish it weren't this way, but it Eglinton does not feel safe to walk on. Heck, it hardly feels safe to drive on.

Can confirm, have converted to walking exclusively on residential side streets throughout this construction phase.

 

[sixrings]

Can confirm, have converted to walking exclusively on residential side streets throughout this construction phase.

Same. I'm amazed any business can manage to stay open. I exclusively walked on Eglinton in the past and have switch to exclusively to residential streets.

 

[cplchanb]

Same. I'm amazed any business can manage to stay open. I exclusively walked on Eglinton in the past and have switch to exclusively to residential streets.

i sympathise with that store and other similar businesses, however this is the price of progress albeit I do wish construction would be faster. Not everything can stay status quo and sometimes there are those who will lose out. We can only accommodate so much for so many people, and we need to draw the line somewhere. We just cant spoonfeed them all the time. They also need to find ways to maintain business through the building phase. Hopefully there will be a revival in the future for those affected.

 

[raptor]

Per

i sympathise with that store and other similar businesses, however this is the price of progress albeit I do wish construction would be faster. Not everything can stay status quo and sometimes there are those who will lose out. We can only accommodate so much for so many people, and we need to draw the line somewhere. We just cant spoonfeed them all the time. They also need to find ways to maintain business through the building phase. Hopefully there will be a revival in the future for those affected.

Perhaps cut and cover would have had a smaller impact?

 

[sixrings]

i sympathise with that store and other similar businesses, however this is the price of progress. Not everything can stay status quo and sometimes there are those who will lose out. We can only accommodate so much for so many people, and we need to draw the line somewhere. Hopefully there will be a revival in the future for those affected.

I don't think that's really fair. Many of the businesses will be closed before this thing open. I'm not saying it won't be a boom for those businesses that survive but even that is debatable when places like the danforth did worse when things went underground. The very least the city could have done was cut property taxes for these businesses. As a resident I live through the construction knowing the area will be better, gentrification continues, and my property value inflates. But as a business it's mostly a loss.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Per

Perhaps cut and cover would have had a smaller impact?

This is what I am thinking. Would local businesses prefer 2-3 years of total hell over 5-6 years of mostly hell?

Seems like tunneling construction methods is not really all that it is cracked up to be.

 

[drum118]

Had a look at Eglinton on Sunday in the east and most likely my last visit tell spring at this time.

I noticed the rails are wrap Between O'Connor and Pharmacy the way TTC does it before concrete is pour. What was also noticed and odd, there are drains from outside the rails to the centre of the track every about 5 feet. With drains, sound like dirt to be place there for grass.

East of this section, rails or concrete pads were being worked on under cover.

Based on what I could see at Kennedy Rd, its ready to have the full intersection back fill and rebuilt. The section west of the intersection to the Portal has been back fill and looks like concrete pour on it for the road.

Excavation underway for the tunnel under the SRT and GO line.

Work underway up to about the centre of the NO Fills store east of Kennedy Rd for the walls of the tunnel. About 200 feet east of the Kennedy Intersection has the roof on the tunnel.

Only a small section of roof for the station concourse needs to be form and most ready for concrete to be pour for that roof.

 

[BurlOak]

This is what I am thinking. Would local businesses prefer 2-3 years of total hell over 5-6 years of mostly hell?

Seems like tunneling construction methods is not really all that it is cracked up to be.

Based on construction disruption (least to most)
1. Elevated.
2. On-street.
3. Cut-and-cover.
4. Tunneled.

Based on rapidness of rapid transit.
1. Elevated, Cut-and-cover, Tunneled (tied).
2. On-street.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Based on construction disruption (least to most)
1. Elevated.
2. On-street.
3. Cut-and-cover.
4. Tunneled.

Based on rapidness of rapid transit.
1. Elevated, Cut-and-cover, Tunneled (tied).
2. On-street.

3. Tunnelled. Station construction and emergency exits disruption only.
4. Cut-and-cover. Station, emergency exits, AND entire route is disrupted.

See link.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

3. Tunnelled. Station construction and emergency exits disruption only.

Ish.

More or less the entire corridor has been under construction or closed at various times due to utility relocation. In terms of severe disruption, the emergency exits (and ventilation shafts) were a pretty big disruption too in the first few years. The "stop-spacing" of the most severe construction was not just at each underground station, but also halfway (where emergency exits are) between two stations.

The emergency exits are completed now, so Eglinton is looking better than it was before. But for the initial years of construction it was a pretty thorough disruption along the full extent of the corridor.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Ish.

More or less the entire corridor has been under construction or closed at various times due to utility relocation. In terms of severe disruption, the emergency exits (and ventilation shafts) were a pretty big disruption too in the first few years. The "stop-spacing" of the most severe construction was not just at each underground station, but also halfway (where emergency exits are) between two stations.

The emergency exits are completed now, so Eglinton is looking better than it was before. But for the initial years of construction it was a pretty thorough disruption along the full extent of the corridor.

ALL the rapid transit construction would involve the relocation of utilities. Even simple road widening needs to relocate the hydro poles and sewer grates.