[EastYorkTTCFan]

I was passing through Kennedy RT station earlier and the station there is nowhere near ready to open. There is no concrete up yet and the hole for the station is still being excavated.

Toward the west end of the construction, they have done a fair bit of work on the entrance structure however there isn't any big progress other then them digging out still on the east end of the station.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Toward the west end of the construction, they have done a fair bit of work on the entrance structure however there isn't any big progress other then them digging out still on the east end of the station.

I really genuinely thought we'd see some station entrances mostly complete at this point. I think we've only seen Mt Dennis (surface station; whatever), and Don Mills reach that point.

 

[Jaye101]

That's my thoughts on Eglinton west

I mean... We may lose generations of culturally diverse businesses in lieu of RBCs and A&Ws with no soul or cultural value. That would be tons worse than what we have now on Eglinton West.

Hopefully we don't.

 

[sixrings]

I mean... We may lose generations of culturally diverse businesses in lieu of RBCs and A&Ws with no soul or cultural value. That would be tons worse than what we have now on Eglinton West.

Hopefully we don't.

I dunno. I love west Indian food and who doesn't need a hair cut. But basically those are the only two businesses between the Allen and dufferin. I'm ok with a RBC and a&w. If anything they would bring diversity.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Staring at the construction photos, I'm on the fence on whether it's not behind.


Here's photos of the confed line around Sept 2017, which is exactly two years before it's actual open date

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

I dunno...I am getting impatient to begin zipping across Eglinton. I have avoided the street for about five years and it has even affected how much I visit close friends, since it's so painful to get around on Eglinton and in the neighbourhoods close to. When you think about it, construction of this magnitude has demolished a generation of businesses.

The investment in the corridor will bring in a new generation of businesses.

The old ones likely weren't going to be long for this world given the rising rents on the corridor.

One of the supposed benefits of tunnelling is the the surface construction impacts are limited to the areas around stations only. However these construction zones around individual stations are so long that they might as well be amalgamated into a single large construction site. Eglinton two blocks away from a station site feels every bit as treacherous as the station itself.

Yup. Definitely has been my experience too.

Even the areas between stations are under construction throughout most of the past 5 years due to relocation of utilities, construction of emergency exits, and whatnot.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Staring at the construction photos, I'm on the fence on whether it's not behind.


Here's photos of the confed line around Sept 2017, which is exactly two years before it's actual open date

Confed line doesn't have anything nearly as complicated as the YE and SE interchanges, so my bet is that it will be delayed. And given it's a P3 and apply the project management triangle (fast, cheap and good - pick two)...

AoD

 

[Streety McCarface]

Confed line doesn't have anything nearly as complicated as the YE and SE interchanges, so my bet is that it will be delayed. And given it's a P3 and apply the project management triangle (fast, cheap and good - pick two)...

AoD

When it comes to public transit infrastructure It's never really a triangle, it's really: pick the first 2 or the third. You can't have it be good and cheap or good and fast.

 

[crs1026]

While taking the GO yesterday, I observed a Flexity running around the yard trackage at the new MSF. The blue lights on the emergency power-off stations were on throughout the yard, suggesting that the overhead is live at least in part of the yard. There were plenty of line trucks further south at the wye to the main line, which gave me some confidence that the overhead will be strung as far east as Keelesdale and perhaps beyond soon. So the ability to do run-ins and testing on the vehicles, and perhaps a section of the signalling, is certainly within sight.

We know that some number of Flexities have been delivered, and with so much time left there is reason to believe that more will be delivered by any potential commissioning date. With TTC, Kitchener, Edmonton and Crosslinx all receiving substantially similar vehicles, I'm increasingly optimistic that any common deficiencies or bugs are known. There is enough time remaining that the pace of deliveries and any rework resulting from test results is not really a concern.

That gives me confidence that the availability or operability of the vehicles will not be the limiting factor for when this line opens. Rather it will be some "missing link" of trackage or tunnel/station completion, or both, that sets the limit for when commissioning can begin.

It's not beyond possibility that the western section could be made sufficiently complete to commission the base elements of power supply, signalling, and operation. Perhaps even a "stress test" running full simulated service, at least between Mount Dennis and the next-eastern set of crossovers. That might make the installation and commissioning of the sections further east that much easier, even if it does not permit actual operation.

It's also not beyond possibility for Crosslinx to truck a couple of Flexities across the city if the easternmost segments reach the point where an operational test is possible. Stress testing might have to wait until the line was complete across the city, but some basic elements of testing the signals, data circuits, power supply etc might be possible. Again, that would not enable actual operation, but it might allow many prerequisites to be completed and bugs corrected, even while some other part of the line is still considerably behind schedule.

So, for me it all boils down to watching those big holes in the ground, especially Yonge and Cedarvale.

- Paul

 

[TrickyRicky]

I know I’m late to the whole concrete cure conversation but to clarify it doesn’t take concrete 28 days to cure. 28 day strength is a design specification convention. Like say 40 MPa (mega pascals) Stress at 28 days based on a standard cylinder compression test. The time it takes a concrete mix design to cure and it’s peak strength are indeterminate.

You can design concrete or other cementitious materials to reach all kinds of performance measures in whatever timeframe you want. The 28 day convention evolved from standard inexpensive concrete used for construction applications and how long such mixes took to reach appreciable levels of their peak strength. Strength in these cases rise rapidly for the first month, then sort of trail off into irrelevance as the reaction runs out of juice.

 

[Allandale25]

 

[Jaye101]

I dunno. I love west Indian food and who doesn't need a hair cut. But basically those are the only two businesses between the Allen and dufferin. I'm ok with a RBC and a&w. If anything they would bring diversity.

This is laughable.

Now, I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement. But common, we have enough dried up areas in this city culturally, I'm hoping not to add this to the list.

 

[sixrings]

This is laughable.

Now, I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement. But common, we have enough dried up areas in this city culturally, I'm hoping not to add this to the list.

True. There is nothing dried up about the area between Eglinton west and dufferin. If anything it's like the wild west. With weekly shootings outside the saloon.

 

[Jaye101]

True. There is nothing dried up about the area between Eglinton west and dufferin. If anything it's like the wild west. With weekly shootings outside the saloon.

I stated that there was room for improvement. However this still doesn't negate the fact that there are cultural institutions in this neighbourhood that have been in place for the last half century. Whether you chose to engage them or not.

Not saying I'm opposed to change. What I was saying is that I hope this will not become another gentrified boring strip with few businesses of cultural significance.

Eglinton at Oakwood has seen it's share of events, but it's not a point of significance on Toronto's shooting map. I see your subtle jab and I won't be race baited.

 

[sixrings]

I stated that there was room for improvement. However this still doesn't negate the fact that there are cultural institutions in this neighbourhood that have been in place for the last half century. Whether you chose to engage them or not.

Not saying I'm opposed to change. What I was saying is that I hope this will not become another gentrified boring strip with few businesses of cultural significance.

Eglinton at Oakwood has seen it's share of events, but it's not a point of significance on Toronto's shooting map. I see your subtle jab and I won't be race baited.

As someone who does eat at one of the West Indian restaurants on Eglinton west I still am dumbfounded why every other store has to be a either a hair dresser or the same type of restaurant. Yes there is a rexdale a shoppers a Starbucks a second cup and God forbid a RBC between Eglinton west and Bathurst but there is also Chinese, Japanese, pho, Jewish restaurants, Italian restaurants, Greek restaurants, a sports bar, clothing stores, art dealers, jewelry stores, travel agencies. I get that you might think that the big box stores are a bit sterile but between Eglinton west and Bathurst I'd argue there's significantly more diversity than what's between Eglinton west and dufferin with almost no shootings that I can think about. That's my take from a local resident.