[UtakataNoAnnex]

Glossed over so far is that they doubled the number of parking spots. Which ordinarily would be a real shame, but if the city won't build transit before the buildings are there, what are people supposed to do other than drive in and out, which requires parking?

...walk, cycle and hopefully not get ran over in the process. >.<

 

[unrealestate]

The reality is the economy is complete trash at the moment. The condo market doesn't exist anymore. There are no buyers. Unemployment is 10%. Money isn't flowing. The previous design was drawn up in a very different environment.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

^...most of residential stuff here seems to be rental in nature.

 

[Start Fox]

Glossed over so far is that they doubled the number of parking spots. Which ordinarily would be a real shame, but if the city won't build transit before the buildings are there, what are people supposed to do other than drive in and out, which requires parking?

This is a very good point. I think this is a major failure by the City and Waterfront Toronto. The first buildings aren't expected to be occupied until 2031, and yet the developers feel that to properly attract tenants six years from now they need to spend significant sums of money to create hundreds of more parking spaces (that will exist forever, though many will probably sit empty or under-utilized once the QQE LRT is eventually built).

Those significant sums could go towards better architecture, better POPS, or hell just development charges that can help pay for the QQE LRT.

 

[GameOnBrad]

I posted this is the Ookwemin Minising Thread as well but also directly applies here.

Waterfront Toronto Open House 2025 - Thursday October 23rd​

251 Queens Quay East Toronto, ON M5A 0X3​

About This Event
Join us on October 23, 2025 to see how the next phase of waterfront revitalization is coming to life. Learn about the projects bringing new housing, destinations and connections to the eastern waterfront. Listen in on presentations to get the latest updates on Quayside, Ookwemin Minising and the Waterfront East Transit. Drop in any time to meet the teams working on these projects, ask questions and provide your feedback. Light refreshments will be served. Doors open at 5:30 pm.

Waterfront Toronto Open House 2025

Discover the next phase of Toronto’s waterfront — updates on Quayside, Ookwemin Minising & more. Drop in to learn & share feedback.

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[beepboop]

 

[CapitalSeven]

.... The first buildings aren't expected to be occupied until 2031, and yet the developers feel that to properly attract tenants six years from now they need to spend significant sums of money to create hundreds of more parking spaces (that will exist forever, though many will probably sit empty or under-utilized once the QQE LRT is eventually built).

But of course said LRT, streetcar that is, was supposed to be built long ago, according to the Transit First policy hallucination. That's where Toronto failed big and hard.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

But of course said LRT, streetcar that is, was supposed to be built long ago, according to the Transit First policy hallucination. That's where Toronto failed big and hard.

...I think it was more hot air than a hallucination. That is, it was only announced to score political points...but they weren't really planning to do anything about it. Opposed something they blazed up in boardroom hotbox. >.<