Admiral Beez
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If I go to the US with intent to protest their domestic and international policies I can’t blame the system for throwing me out. Maybe Mahmoud Khalil should return to Syria and help sort out their own country.
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Admiral Beez
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As a potential visitor to the US, just follow the law, don’t cause trouble, don’t assume the constitutional rights of US citizens, and you’ll be fine.
This person had his PR and is married to an American citizen and has a life there. His right to protest is covered under the First Amendment as a PR.
Admiral Beez
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I believe he’s lost his PR, which is granted and rescinded at the whim of the government. Our man should have kept his mouth shut, and just gone about with his studies per his PR and visa. Leave the movement to change America’s politics and foreign policy to Americans. From 1976 to 1995 I was a PR in Canada, and I remember the protests at my Ontario university over whatever irked the student protest movement of the day, and even then I remember thinking I’m not a citizen of this country, and will not rock any boats.
Well, now they are talking about deporting his wife, who is a citizen. Khalil has not been charged with anything yet. As for revoking his status, that is up to an immigration judge, not immigration officials, and that hasn't happened yet. So yes, the US is running roughshod over their own rules and protections.
Admiral Beez
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That’s on the 68% of eligible US voters who either voted for Trump or couldn’t be bothered to vote. This is what they asked for, even if they didn’t know it.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Zero chance that is true. Unless she's not a citizen (which I suspect is the case). I think his kid is born in the US. But the US (and Canada) routinely deports minor citizens with their parents.
Doesn't work like that. Visas are entirely at government discretion. And they can be revoked for any reason. They can't really jail him for his speech. That would be a violation of his First Amendment rights. They can, however, cancel his visa and deport him.
He doesn't have a Visa. He has a Green Card. https://www.npr.org/2025/03/13/nx-s1-5326015/mahmoud-khalil-deportation-arrests-trump
She is a citizen. She is currently pregnant: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/wi...e-was-naive-believe-he-was-secure-2025-03-12/
kEiThZ
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A green card is a visa. Anything short of citizenship can be cancelled at the government's discretion. And that's as true in Canada, as the US.
In which case threats to deport her are fearmongering and not legally enforceable at all.
as I mentioned above, it is an issue for the court to decide, and to date that hasn't happened. It isn't at the discretion of a bureaucrat.
Mahmoud Khalil's arrest raises legal questions around deporting legal permanent residents
“Immigration law does allow the federal government to deport noncitizens, even people who are green-card holders,” in certain circumstances, an expert said.
www.nbcnews.com
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
Why this is a bad thing...
kEiThZ
Superstar
as I mentioned above, it is an issue for the court to decide, and to date that hasn't happened. It isn't at the discretion of a bureaucrat.
Mahmoud Khalil's arrest raises legal questions around deporting legal permanent residents
“Immigration law does allow the federal government to deport noncitizens, even people who are green-card holders,” in certain circumstances, an expert said.
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From your own article:
Sure. That means he has some avenues for legal appeal. But that doesn't contradict what I said. The government has the broad right to cancel his visa and deport him. A Green Card might be marginally better than say an H1. But not by much..
From a political perspective, I don't get going to bat for this guy, with all that is going on, in that country. But sure, I guess the left is really clued into the average American voter these days.
EBT
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When was the last time that you heard of a green card holder being deported for criticizing the American government? It has never happened. They are trying to deport this guy because he protested the actions of a foreign country. The one country you are not allowed to ever criticize i.e. "America's Most Cherished Ally™". This is a direct attack on free speech, and it won't stop with green card holders. American born citizens will be targeted and have been targeted for the same offense of criticizing that one country that you are not allowed to criticize. Americans have been expelled from universities and put on hiring blacklists. Everything will be done to destroy their futures. The people behind this are very well funded and organized and they are even using AI to target people by combing social media history. It is this most un-American thing imaginable and the direct opposite of "America First" and yet Trump is driving this. Finally, it is not just the left that is "going to bat" for this guy. There are many principled conservatives that are appalled about this attack on the First Amendment. The most cherished right of all Americans.
Yes, deportable but via the court system. Not via a politician or bureaucrat.(which I have stated 3 times)
kEiThZ
Superstar
Not quite. Having an appeal doesn't mean "it's via the court system". It just means you can appeal against the government's decisions. And as your own article points out, Green Card cases are decided in Immigration Court just like every other visa. I think people are struggling with this because they've been told for so long that a Green Card is substantially different from other visas in the US, many viewing it as close to citizenship. Unfortunately for Mahmoud, that's not true.