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That's nice of VIA to lend them the train set. I guess it's so that they can tweak the design during the manufacturing process.
I wouldn't be surprised if VIA was also interested to see how it would go, given it can almost get as cold in Quebec City as up there. This winter might be the first year in a while that We'll see temperatures well into the minus thirties in Quebec City.

I'd also think they'd want some ideas on how these engines would work if they won the contract for the replacement of the long-distance services. Probably cheaper than using the testing facility in Ottawa again.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if VIA was also interested to see how it would go, given it can almost get as cold in Quebec City as up there. This winter might be the first year in a while that We'll see temperatures well into the minus thirties in Quebec City.

I'd also think they'd want some ideas on how these engines would work if they won the contract for the replacement of the long-distance services. Probably cheaper than using the testing facility in Ottawa again.
It also tells me that if Via ever does HSR, these trains could be used elsewhere to expand their network if it was ever decided. I can imagine replacing these northern Quebec routes, and the 185 with these trains. I can also see the Skeena also using these. So, this real world cold and snowy weather testing is a good sight to see.
 
That's nice of VIA to lend them the train set. I guess it's so that they can tweak the design during the manufacturing process.
I'm not sure why it matters, other than for making a nice photo op.

Very early in testing, one of VIA's sets was sent to the NRC's climate chamber, where they tested it down to -60C.

Dan
 
I'm not sure why it matters, other than for making a nice photo op.

Very early in testing, one of VIA's sets was sent to the NRC's climate chamber, where they tested it down to -60C.

Dan

In addition to the NRC tests, the Ventures have been in service in Midwest US winters for long enough before VIA deliveries began, that their cold weather performance and quirks - and the fixes to those - are probably quite well established.

I suspect this test is to allow ONR staff to see for themselves. For them, it's the first opportunity and nothing beats seeing things first hand.

- Paul
 
Some really good Northlander progress videos from ONTC:

Joint Elimination and Continuous Welded Rail

Curve Adjustment

North Bay By-Pass

Platform Construction at North Bay Station

Oh wow that’s some good work. Ontario Northland should really think about marketing to the GTHA for trips up north. Or try and create some incentive (maybe deals on hotel stays by taking the train etc.)
 
I'm not sure why it matters, other than for making a nice photo op.

Very early in testing, one of VIA's sets was sent to the NRC's climate chamber, where they tested it down to -60C.

Dan
I think they sent one of Ottawa's LRT vehicles to those same cold chambers (or something similar) for testing very early on, when the confederation line was still under construction. But when they entered final testing and revenue service, there was an issue with electricity arcing from where the overhead line joined the vehicle, due to snow, ice and dirt mixing. There wasn't any dirt in the cold chamber testing, from what I read. They still have an issue with it I believe. I think winter weather was also one of the issues with the doors failing.

nothing beats seeing things first hand.
I agree. It can't hurt for the Northlander to test actual conditions.
 
In addition to the NRC tests, the Ventures have been in service in Midwest US winters for long enough before VIA deliveries began, that their cold weather performance and quirks - and the fixes to those - are probably quite well established.

I suspect this test is to allow ONR staff to see for themselves. For them, it's the first opportunity and nothing beats seeing things first hand.

- Paul
My first thought was perhaps factors such as swirling snow, undercarriage accumulation, etc. might be different than static cold temperatures, but if the same equipment is in the use in the upper mid-west then one would think that would be sufficient. In a very Canadian-military type of way where we somehow think everything must be 'Canadianized', perhaps they think our cold is different than their cold.
 
My first thought was perhaps factors such as swirling snow, undercarriage accumulation, etc. might be different than static cold temperatures, but if the same equipment is in the use in the upper mid-west then one would think that would be sufficient. In a very Canadian-military type of way where we somehow think everything must be 'Canadianized', perhaps they think our cold is different than their cold.
Our cold is different than their cold. But it isn't. For example, when the 11 was closed for 16 hours south of North Bay, 11 north of it was open.There are micro climates needed to be considered. Also,-60 static vs -60 running is much different. Another consideration we may not be thinking of, and someone can confirm them is that it could be that Via wants to free up more equipment to seal with the slow orders on CN tracks. Yes, they are still on the CN tracks, but this could be a case of seeing what happens up there and having more older stuff along the corridor.
 
In a very Canadian-military type of way where we somehow think everything must be 'Canadianized', perhaps they think our cold is different than their cold.
Where are they using the coaches currently in the USA? And where do they park them overnight?

They certainly had to make a lot of upgrades after the testing in Ottawa?
 

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