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lenaitch said:
Are you trying to make the case that people would be willing to commute to Toronto?

You made the statement that there is plenty of employment there, in response to a statement that the government wasn't making it attractive enough for enough people to move there to enable higher density.
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Commute? No. Use it to travel instead of their car, maybe. The Northlander will be a great test of ridership. Will other modes go down? Will traffic on 11 drop?

My statement is there is enough employment here that attracting people here is not needed. Housing is needed, better transportation is needed. Employment is not as needed. And if they ever get the Ring of Fire started, employment from that will come here naturally, if not form the direct mining operations, then from the industries that support mining.
 
micheal_can said:
Commute? No. Use it to travel instead of their car, maybe. The Northlander will be a great test of ridership. Will other modes go down? Will traffic on 11 drop?

My statement is there is enough employment here that attracting people here is not needed. Housing is needed, better transportation is needed. Employment is not as needed. And if they ever get the Ring of Fire started, employment from that will come here naturally, if not form the direct mining operations, then from the industries that support mining.
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Sudbury does seem to being doing okay, with an unemployment rate roughly similar to the province-wide number. Other northern cities not so much.

Hint: If you ever get the urge to strive for elected office, don't lead with 'we don't need more jobs'. ;)
 
lenaitch said:
Sudbury does seem to being doing okay, with an unemployment rate roughly similar to the province-wide number. Other northern cities not so much.
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I feel it has more to do with how divested we are and not just reliant on one sector,or even one mineral. Last I heard though, minerals are doing well.

lenaitch said:
Hint: If you ever get the urge to strive for elected office, don't lead with 'we don't need more jobs'. ;)
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I mean, I would never refuse more employers and expansion of existing ones, but if I were to list top 5 things this city needs, jobs would be #5. Number 1? 4 lane 69. 2 would be repave more roads. 3 would be clean up downtown.4 would be housing. 5 would be better winter highway maintenance.
 
Not sure I've seen 3D renderings before of the future station. Posted here on LinkedIn by EllisDon.

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News release today:

NEWS RELEASE

Ontario Completes Construction of New Track for Northlander Passenger Rail Service​

North Bay Rail Bypass will shorten travel times by 15 minutes
September 15, 2025
Ministry of Transportation
NORTH BAY — The Ontario government has completed the North Bay Rail Bypass, marking a major milestone in the province’s plan to bring back Northlander passenger rail service to northern Ontario. The 982-metre track will improve travel times by 15 minutes to North Bay Station, giving passengers more time with their families and friends while supporting tourism, jobs and economic growth in northern Ontario.

“With record investments in infrastructure, including the Northlander, our government is getting it done for the people of Ontario by helping to keep workers on the job in the face of tariffs and economic uncertainty,” said Prabmeet Sarkaria, Minister of Transportation. “People and businesses across the north have long awaited the return of the Northlander and that is why we are delivering on our promise to restore this vital transportation network that will propel northern economic growth.”

The new track will ensure that Northlander passenger trains avoid the busy North Bay Rail Yard, improving safety and operational efficiency by keeping them clear of active freight operations between CN, Ottawa Valley Railway and Ontario Northland.
“The completion of the North Bay Rail Bypass marks an important milestone in our government's revitalization and restoration of the Northlander, and delivers on a promise to connect Nipissing families, workers, and industries with economic opportunities across the province” said Vic Fedeli, MPP for Nipissing. “We look forward to seeing the Northlander back in action, delivering the efficient, convenient, and affordable transportation that northern Ontario residents deserve.”|

The Northlander will connect Toronto to Timmins with a rail connection to Cochrane, including a total of 16 stops along the way. It will support northern industries and the resource sector, improving access to good-paying jobs and essential services, including healthcare and education.
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micheal_can said:
And with the current one train a day, is there really a need?
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I assume it was mentioned because it has been indicated that Transport Canada 'is not in favour' of passenger rail on non-signalized track, even though it exists in several locations across the country. Given the very low daily volume all the way down to Washago, I don't see it as an issue.
 
lenaitch said:
I assume it was mentioned because it has been indicated that Transport Canada 'is not in favour' of passenger rail on non-signalized track, even though it exists in several locations across the country. Given the very low daily volume all the way down to Washago, I don't see it as an issue.
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Same here. It is an added expense that at this point has no reason for it. I'm imaging that the line will work as it does now, with trains getting clearances for a section of track. With no expectations of the line getting much busier than the 4 trains a day, they can be spaced well.
 
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