[thommyjo]

The whole 106 Street from 51 Ave to 29 Ave is ripe for collector road renewal, imo. Those are some of the worst painted bike gutters in terms of road condition, and feel overbuilt for a residential collector road, particularly between 40 Ave and 51 Ave (Duggan to Southgate). Though I imagine more construction in that area might not be that popular given the sewer work that's been ongoing there for the last 2+ years.

As for the single lane design through Allendale and McKernan (76 Ave), let's hope that design is never used again by the city. Hard curbs, awkward turns for parking bays, parked cars so close by, and the bus stop ramps do not make for the best cycling experience for everyone.

105ave saw 76 ave and said hold my beer

 

[CplKlinger]

The whole 106 Street from 51 Ave to 29 Ave is ripe for collector road renewal, imo. Those are some of the worst painted bike gutters in terms of road condition, and feel overbuilt for a residential collector road, particularly between 40 Ave and 51 Ave (Duggan to Southgate). Though I imagine more construction in that area might not be that popular given the sewer work that's been ongoing there for the last 2+ years.

As for the single lane design through Allendale and McKernan (76 Ave), let's hope that design is never used again by the city. Hard curbs, awkward turns for parking bays, parked cars so close by, and the bus stop ramps do not make for the best cycling experience for everyone.

It really makes me sad that Blatchford is using the single-directional bike lanes rather than the bi-directional ones; using them brings me back to when I lived in McKernan and used the 76 Ave lanes regularly.

 

[TAS]

It really makes me sad that Blatchford is using the single-directional bike lanes rather than the bi-directional ones; using them brings me back to when I lived in McKernan and used the 76 Ave lanes regularly.

In winter, and spring melting, it becomes a real liability because the single lane is narrower and narrows even more with snow build up and ice.

With the bi-directional lanes its safer to ride.

 

[thommyjo]

In winter, and spring melting, it becomes a real liability because the single lane is narrower and narrows even more with snow build up and ice.

With the bi-directional lanes its safer to ride.

One difference, is the turning safety for other road users. It’s like MUPs.

If a car is turning left, they are looking ahead of them for other cars and bikes. But on a MUP/bi directional lane, you sneak up from their blind shoulder.

It’s a regular close call I have with drivers, especially on MUPs.

Single lanes eliminate this risk. But yeah, have other downsides like winter snow, passing, side by side riding with friends, and cargo bikes all being impacted.

This is why 132ave is single direction, but wider than most singles. But you see the backlash that’s had too.

 

[ntt1]

One difference, is the turning safety for other road users. It’s like MUPs.

If a car is turning left, they are looking ahead of them for other cars and bikes. But on a MUP/bi directional lane, you sneak up from their blind shoulder.

It’s a regular close call I have with drivers, especially on MUPs.

Single lanes eliminate this risk. But yeah, have other downsides like winter snow, passing, side by side riding with friends, and cargo bikes all being impacted.

This is why 132ave is single direction, but wider than most singles. But you see the backlash that’s had too.

My main issue are the hard barriers being pretty unforgiving and constraining, coupled with the narrowness. The newer single lane designs like 132 Ave and through Pleasantview (and the portion north of 76 to Whyte) feel less constraining and at least give you an option to bail out if needed (or avoid obstacles).

 

[dkazzed]

The wide single direction bike lanes on 132 Ave helped with the sometimes poor snow clearing.

 

[etl-downtown]

One difference, is the turning safety for other road users. It’s like MUPs.

If a car is turning left, they are looking ahead of them for other cars and bikes. But on a MUP/bi directional lane, you sneak up from their blind shoulder.

It’s a regular close call I have with drivers, especially on MUPs.

Single lanes eliminate this risk. But yeah, have other downsides like winter snow, passing, side by side riding with friends, and cargo bikes all being impacted.

This is why 132ave is single direction, but wider than most singles. But you see the backlash that’s had too.

City is very reluctant to build new 2-way bike lanes for this exact reason, especially along 2-way streets.

 

[thommyjo]

City is very reluctant to build new 2-way bike lanes for this exact reason, especially along 2-way streets.

But slap down MUPs everywhere too haha.

I don’t get the city sometimes. I remember during Victoria promenade debacle I talked with one of the engineers asking if we would see 121/jasper and 116/100ave get more protected intersections.

She was like, “what do you mean protected?”

I said “you know, how other cities build protected bike intersections to help with corners and keeping bikes in better sightlines”.

She had 0 idea what I meant. I showed here the following pics and she was like “oh interesting, never seen that.”



And we wonder why we get crap like 105ave….