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To give everyone involved with the project an additional two years of something to do?
 
thommyjo said:
Why does it have to take 3 years though? We should expedite work on main streets, retail areas, major roadways, and high density areas. 3 years of disruption for 10 blocks is laughable in many countries.
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Budgeting with taxpayers money?
Sharing the load with other high priority construction?
More detour options?
 
Gronk! said:
Budgeting with taxpayers money?
Sharing the load with other high priority construction?
More detour options?
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I would love to have the work done sooner, but you raise good points. I would imagine that the cost of mobilizing enough workers/materials to complete the whole shot in one season would drastically increase the final price. It has taken way too long to get to this point, and I am just glad it is finally funded and moving forward.
 
roe_ said:
I would love to have the work done sooner, but you raise good points. I would imagine that the cost of mobilizing enough workers/materials to complete the whole shot in one season would drastically increase the final price. It has taken way too long to get to this point, and I am just glad it is finally funded and moving forward.
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I think it’s the other way around… mobilizing and demobilizing three times is much more expensive than just doing it once and that’s compounded by accompanying changes in personnel etc. Then there’s the additional uncertainty and escalations involved in pricing two and three years Into the future instead of just one. You can add to that the lowering of efficiencies in not being able to complete various scopes of work in one year instead of two or three that are more easily done in one (ie landscaping) as well as the added complexities of having warranty work split over three years and guarantees having different expiry dates both of which also complicate the city’s taking over maintenance and repairs following completion.
 
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kcantor said:
I think it’s the other way around… mobilizing and demobilizing three times is much more expensive than just doing it once and that’s compounded by accompanying changes in personnel etc. Then there’s the additional uncertainty and escalations involved in pricing two and three years Into the future instead of just one. You can add to that the lowering of efficiencies in not being able to complete various scopes of work in one year instead of two or three that are more easily done in one (ie landscaping) as well as the added complexities of having warranty work split over three years and guarantees having different expiry dates both of which also complicate the city’s taking over maintenance and repairs following completion.
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Exactly.

Plus the costs of 3 years of disruption on commuting, local residents, retail businesses, etc.

I’m sure at a certain point there are diminishing returns to accelerate it. But anything more than 1 construction season seems stupid and needlessly disruptive. Wihkwentowin renewal will be happening all over this area too, plus 104ave LRT work, plus Wellington Bridge.

102ave Wellington bridge is already closed for the entire year. A TON of traffic will be diverted off of the western part of Jasper Ave. The perfect time to hammer out all the work in a year and reopen it all together.
 
A problem is when a government looks at it from the view of what is efficient for them or their budget instead of what is good for the community as a whole.

A lot of damage has been done to our downtown by projects that have dragged on too long or too many things were happening in one area at the same time.
 
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