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smallspy said:
Another reason why the car may not be in service yet is that equipment may need to be replaced on it.
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Last time I saw 206, all it was doing was just sitting outside attached to a cut of cars with no locos attached (along with 206 facing east) at Willowbrook. I did see it had the diaphrams installed on both A and B ends though.
 
smallspy said:
Being delivered in the wrong direction isn't that big a deal, and it happens pretty regularly. They'll run the car down to the TMC and either use the wye or the turntable to spin it around and in the right direction.

Another reason why the car may not be in service yet is that equipment may need to be replaced on it. For instance although passenger cars are not supposed to be coupled to freight cars equipped with shelf couplers, it happens with alarming regularity and so the diaphram (or diaphrams) may need to be replaced.

Dan
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what is tmc?
 
smallspy said:
Being delivered in the wrong direction isn't that big a deal, and it happens pretty regularly. They'll run the car down to the TMC and either use the wye or the turntable to spin it around and in the right direction.

Another reason why the car may not be in service yet is that equipment may need to be replaced on it. For instance although passenger cars are not supposed to be coupled to freight cars equipped with shelf couplers, it happens with alarming regularity and so the diaphram (or diaphrams) may need to be replaced.

Dan
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I didn't know that they still have a working turn table. Where is it?
 
Bordercollie said:
I didn't know that they still have a working turn table. Where is it?
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On the southwest side of the yard.

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It's nice but the one on the steam train to Wakefield QC was better. The youngsters who played fiddle tunes on the way up would get out and twirl the steam engine around for the trip home.
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You know I've noticed something

It seems as though for the 6 remaining classic style cab cars (252-257, with 251 excluded for now), GO seems to be having them running on solely 12 car trains on mostly the Lakeshore and Milton lines. They only sometimes rarely go on 12 car trips on the Barrie or Stouffville, but then afterwards return onto the Lakeshore or Milton.

Could GO potentially do the same with 200-214?
 
RS3488 said:
You know I've noticed something

It seems as though for the 6 remaining classic style cab cars (252-257, with 251 excluded for now), GO seems to be having them running on solely 12 car trains on mostly the Lakeshore and Milton lines. They only sometimes rarely go on 12 car trips on the Barrie or Stouffville, but then afterwards return onto the Lakeshore or Milton.

Could GO potentially do the same with 200-214?
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If I was GO, I'd want to keep the flat-nosed cabs on predominantly passenger-only routes as much as possible as they do not have CEM. This logic doesn't apply if they're running on the Milton Line however.
 
SaugeenJunction said:
If I was GO, I'd want to keep the flat-nosed cabs on predominantly passenger-only routes as much as possible as they do not have CEM. This logic doesn't apply if they're running on the Milton Line however.
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Though with the amount of freight traffic the Galt sees these days I would certainly be inclined to think it's a passenger only route
 
SaugeenJunction said:
It isn't that busy with CP anymore? I guess that's good news for future Milton Line service?
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Ever since the KCS merger came into the news you dont see as many trains on the Galt between Guelph Junction and west toronto... mactier is still pretty busy
 
Krypto98 said:
Though with the amount of freight traffic the Galt sees these days I would certainly be inclined to think it's a passenger only route
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Well, yes and no. The number of trains per day is definitely lower, yes. And due to the dimensions of the Detroit tunnel, a certain amount of traffic that used to run through Windsor now detours through Buffalo so that it can be handled as a double stack container train(s).

But in terms of tonnage, it's still very busy.... just fewer trains that are much longer. And run to more demanding schedules that could be messed up if there were too many passenger trains in the way. With different yarding and switching needs and locations.

The challenge for running these longer trains is how to keep them moving so they don't block crossings, or have awkward meets with other trains given that both may be over siding length. In Halton and Peel especially, what used to be possible in having trains stop and cross over to pass each other and weave around GO trains is much more difficult.

So a route that looked like an easy path for GO when it was overhauled back in the 1980's is not necessarily just as easy a path today, even though fewer trains a day pass over it.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
Well, yes and no. The number of trains per day is definitely lower, yes. And due to the dimensions of the Detroit tunnel, a certain amount of traffic that used to run through Windsor now detours through Buffalo so that it can be handled as a double stack container train(s).

But in terms of tonnage, it's still very busy.... just fewer trains that are much longer. And run to more demanding schedules that could be messed up if there were too many passenger trains in the way. With different yarding and switching needs and locations.

The challenge for running these longer trains is how to keep them moving so they don't block crossings, or have awkward meets with other trains given that both may be over siding length. In Halton and Peel especially, what used to be possible in having trains stop and cross over to pass each other and weave around GO trains is much more difficult.

So a route that looked like an easy path for GO when it was overhauled back in the 1980's is not necessarily just as easy a path today, even though fewer trains a day pass over it.

- Paul
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The number of trains has declined over the years as they get longer. The longest I have seen on the line in the past year was 177 cars of mixed traffic including double deck containers. Years or even decades ago, you were lucky to see 100 cars trains.

Most of those long trains move at night, but still see a few during the day.

On demand scheduled plays a large part finding space for any type of other trains including GO on any systems in NA. At the same time is having sidings that can handle the longest trains is a big issues. Have heard of an few Opps where 2 trains couldn't pass each other to the point it took some tight moving to get around each other very slowly.

The sooner they start filling in the missing gaps for the 3rd track on the Milton line, better off it will be for everyone until there are 4 tracks in the corridor.
 
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