[WB62]

Last week on separate days both the Stouffville and the Lakeshore Lines were exclusively using old cab cars, almost all trains had them for a day each.
Could GO possibly be doing that purposely to get crews used to operating the old cab cars again?

 

[RU479]

Last week on separate days both the Stouffville and the Lakeshore Lines were exclusively using old cab cars, almost all trains had them for a day each.
Could GO possibly be doing that purposely to get crews used to operating the old cab cars again?

GO has been operating 6 of the 7 remaining old cab cars pretty regularly on the Lakeshore and Milton lines since June 2022, (252-257, with 251 being OOS since September 2021 due to a mechanical issue). I doubt that's the reason.

 

[WB62]

GO has been operating 6 of the 7 remaining old cab cars pretty regularly on the Lakeshore and Milton lines since June 2022, (252-257, with 251 being OOS since September 2021 due to a mechanical issue). I doubt that's the reason.

I know that, but two days specifically last week they only used the old cab cars, that’s not regular. Going eastbound on the Lakeshore West last week, my train (with an old cab car) passed at least 4 other trains with old cab cars, that’s not ordinary and is a pretty hard coincidence.

 

[RU479]

I know that, but two days specifically last week they only used the old cab cars, that’s not regular. Going eastbound on the Lakeshore West last week, my train (with an old cab car) passed 5 other trains with old cab cars, that’s not ordinary and is a pretty hard coincidence.

I have seen instances where 6 old cab cars are all on the Lakeshore at one time, I think the coincidence just happens to be seeing them all in a row.

 

[gotransitboyhere]

GO has been operating 6 of the 7 remaining old cab cars pretty regularly on the Lakeshore and Milton lines since June 2022, (252-257, with 251 being OOS since September 2021 due to a mechanical issue). I doubt that's the reason.

Same. I seen mostly old cabs which is awesome!

 

[gotransitboyhere]

Wonder what GO's plan will be for them, considering it's been a few months and 206 has not been operated yet.

I wonder too I been patiently waiting for that beauty to be leading those trains again.

 

[RU479]

212 in CN's Mac Yard now, about to get delivered to Aldershot

 

[RU479]

Looks as though 212 was left at Mac and did not get sent to Aldershot for further delivery to Willowbrook.

I have to wonder whether GO may not be entirely satisfied with the work that has been done on them, considering 206 still has not entered any sort of service since it arrived in November. The same thing happened with the MP40s when they were first delivered back in 2007.

 

[Bordercollie]

Looks as though 212 was left at Mac and did not get sent to Aldershot for further delivery to Willowbrook.

I have to wonder whether GO may not be entirely satisfied with the work that has been done on them, considering 206 still has not entered any sort of service since it arrived in November. The same thing happened with the MP40s when they were first delivered back in 2007.

It might not be that, I'm sure there is a process to accept anything that has been modified.
You need to do static testing, perform training for crews, maintenance people and even cleaners.
And then create procedures and manuals.

Before being accepted into service they need to ensure everything is perfect. The last thing you want is for it to enter service and nobody knows what to do in order to fix it.

 

[T3G]

Yeah, it's not even three months since 206 was delivered. For any vehicle that has been extensively refurbished, that is nothing.

 

[crs1026]

Yeah, it's not even three months since 206 was delivered. For any vehicle that has been extensively refurbished, that is nothing.

Depending on when it was promised, and what other work has come up, the slot in the shop schedule may have been deferred. Early delivery is as bad as late delivery sometimes. Maybe it's more efficient to wait until there are multiple cars to process, so the same shop people do them all and get the benefit of the learning curve. Could be any number of reasons why the shop isn't rushing to put 'em in service.

So long as trains aren't being cancelled for lack of serviceable equipment, nobody cares except impatient foamers.

- Paul

 

[RU479]

Well turns out my previous assertion was incorrect, because look who showed up on CN 435. (image not mine)

 

[cplchanb]

It might not be that, I'm sure there is a process to accept anything that has been modified.
You need to do static testing, perform training for crews, maintenance people and even cleaners.
And then create procedures and manuals.

Before being accepted into service they need to ensure everything is perfect. The last thing you want is for it to enter service and nobody knows what to do in order to fix it.

then again the cab car is more or less then same as it was delivered save for some detailed upgrades on some minor equipment. there shouldnt be much delay for EIS due to the above itmes

 

[Krypto98]

Depending on when it was promised, and what other work has come up, the slot in the shop schedule may have been deferred. Early delivery is as bad as late delivery sometimes. Maybe it's more efficient to wait until there are multiple cars to process, so the same shop people do them all and get the benefit of the learning curve. Could be any number of reasons why the shop isn't rushing to put 'em in service.

So long as trains aren't being cancelled for lack of serviceable equipment, nobody cares except impatient foamers.

- Paul

Keep in mind, when I saw 206 at mac (I had to move it from R yard cause we can't hump passenger coaches) the A end was facing north/east, so it will need to be wyed at some point. It was also pain to move since you can't ride it since metrolinx removed the stur ups and handles on the outside... 212 looks to be facing the correct direction however

 

[smallspy]

Keep in mind, when I saw 206 at mac (I had to move it from R yard cause we can't hump passenger coaches) the A end was facing north/east, so it will need to be wyed at some point. It was also pain to move since you can't ride it since metrolinx removed the stur ups and handles on the outside... 212 looks to be facing the correct direction however

Being delivered in the wrong direction isn't that big a deal, and it happens pretty regularly. They'll run the car down to the TMC and either use the wye or the turntable to spin it around and in the right direction.

Another reason why the car may not be in service yet is that equipment may need to be replaced on it. For instance although passenger cars are not supposed to be coupled to freight cars equipped with shelf couplers, it happens with alarming regularity and so the diaphram (or diaphrams) may need to be replaced.

Dan