cplchanb
Senior Member
maybe they could negotiate a slot into the existing production backlog with Amtrak. They have large orders so they could afford to have a dozen locos come slightly later than planned in exchange for some
cash incentives.
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cash incentives.
RU479
Active Member
I think WCE is actually getting another F59PH from Metrolink (the model GO has not the streamlined version)
drum118
Superstar
Oct 9
It been 11 years since I last shot this locomotive pushing an Westbound Train A Port Credit
GOT 647 was a hell lot quitter than 671 that was real loud arriving at PC and became quitter after starting to move again. Have never heard 671 been this loud every time I have seen it to date.
It been 11 years since I last shot this locomotive pushing an Westbound Train A Port Credit
GOT 647 was a hell lot quitter than 671 that was real loud arriving at PC and became quitter after starting to move again. Have never heard 671 been this loud every time I have seen it to date.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Well Metra in Chicago just got “like-new” commuter rail locomotives which ended up being refurbished freight locomotives. Metrolinx/GO PLEASE don’t do this.
RU479
Active Member
Considering how it was just 3-4 years back that MX wrapped up with the order of 16 MP54ACs, I doubt they’d suddenly opt for refurbished freight locos over something new.
cplchanb
Senior Member
Unless they're using it as a short term stopgap until they can get electric locos...
RU479
Active Member
I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that maybe the locomotives will only be temporary and then once the electric locomotives arrive they'll be taken off the roster? Because in that case it doesn't really matter what locomotives they get as long as they preform reliably.
dowlingm
Senior Member
Different agencies have different needs and financial realities
Metra: Remanufactured Progress Rail power - Railway Age
Chicago’s Metra has awarded a $70.9 million contract to Progress Rail for 15 remanufactured and repurposed diesel-electric locomotives to modernize its ageing fleet. The contract includes options for up to 27 additional units, which will be purchased if funding becomes available.
www.railwayage.com
16-710 power, AC traction, 4000hp, Tier 3. It's Metra so I'm guessing top speed isn't going to trouble the model's 70mph capability. A model and power which likely has a substantial parts availability nearby. They could have done worse, I think?
Jonny5
Senior Member
And you can find those who would say buying used locomotives instead of making new ones is a 'Green" option.Different agencies have different needs and financial realities
Metra: Remanufactured Progress Rail power - Railway Age
Chicago’s Metra has awarded a $70.9 million contract to Progress Rail for 15 remanufactured and repurposed diesel-electric locomotives to modernize its ageing fleet. The contract includes options for up to 27 additional units, which will be purchased if funding becomes available.
16-710 power, AC traction, 4000hp. It's Metra so I'm guessing top speed isn't going to trouble the model's 70mph capability. A model and power which likely has a substantial parts availability nearby. They could have done worse, I think?
The calculations these days about what you "should" buy are quite politically complex.
dowlingm
Senior Member
For me the things which militates against rebuilds of locomotives and coaches are safety and accessibility - the VIA 92 crash pointed up the difference in cab safety standards between the F40s design period and now - and Metra has a lot of F40s. If the SD70MACs (now MACHs) have a cab which is reasonably current vs current FRA cab standards, then a Tier 3 rebuild is a reasonable choice which gets you most of the environmental benefit and retains the carbon previously expended in the frame, trucks etc.
It can't give you 80mph on the Oakville Sub, but that isn't what it was purchased for, so good luck to them.
crs1026
Superstar
Different agencies have different needs and financial realities
Metra: Remanufactured Progress Rail power - Railway Age
Chicago’s Metra has awarded a $70.9 million contract to Progress Rail for 15 remanufactured and repurposed diesel-electric locomotives to modernize its ageing fleet. The contract includes options for up to 27 additional units, which will be purchased if funding becomes available.
16-710 power, AC traction, 4000hp, Tier 3. It's Metra so I'm guessing top speed isn't going to trouble the model's 70mph capability. A model and power which likely has a substantial parts availability nearby. They could have done worse, I think?
Under the hood, if constructed with such intent, such a loco could have many similarities to a standard GO MP40. Common parts supply is always good. I bet the price was a loss-leading kind of incentive.
I’m not thrilled about six axle trucks - although as noted at stop and go speeds, and with a B1-1B drive train, it’s within the capacity of the track. (Just don’t assign to express runs).
- Paul
Bordercollie
Senior Member
70 Millon for 15 loco's is a steal.
robmausser
Senior Member
Metra is an underfunded joke. Something like this would never happen here.
dowlingm
Senior Member
AMT/Exo could absolutely have bought there - didn't they acquire F40s a few years back which were being used in freight service before them?
Not sure we should be judgey here in Ontario either - Metrolinx have high floor DMUs that weren't exactly a sales hit, and F59PHs that I assume never got Tier2. Ottawa got those castaway Bombardier DMUs for O-Train. Meanwhile we did our best to rebuild VIA's popcans and did trial runs of 60 year old RDCs to serve Southwestern Ontario.
gotransitboyhere
Active Member
Is there anything happening to cab cars (242-257)?