[Bordercollie]

Genuine question, is there a possibility that MX may get not get newly built locomotives?

I mean if the first 8 locos are supposed to arrive by September 2024, that's less than 2 years for a company to build every locomotive.

And considering how used locomotives that could be rebuilt are cheaper, is there even a slim chance that is what goes ahead?

If it's an existing design then it's just a matter of building the frame and assembling the components.

 

[turbanplanner]

I see on wikipedia some of the cab cars were converted to fully passengers cars, then converted BACK to cab cars. Is this true?

 

[gotransitboyhere]

Yes it's true I found pictures of it on trainweb.org

 

[RU479]

I see on wikipedia some of the cab cars were converted to fully passengers cars, then converted BACK to cab cars. Is this true? View attachment 434167

Yes, cab cars 251 and 252 were converted into coaches, infact I believe they acted as accessibility coaches during this time.

I’d guess the need for some extra cab cars due to service increases prompted GO unconvert them.

Here is a picture of 251 taken during this time

 

[RU479]

And that leads me to wonder, when will GO remove/replace those steps on all of the BiLevels that prevents them from using the at level platforms they were wanting to build?

 

[T3G]

I see on wikipedia some of the cab cars were converted to fully passengers cars, then converted BACK to cab cars. Is this true? View attachment 434167

The screenshot doesn't say "fully" converted. It is true that the coaches were converted to run mid-train, yes, but I would interpret a "full" conversion would include removing the cab to maximize floor space, which is not what happened.

Here is a pic of the cab area of a converted car, photo is mine.

 

[gotransitboyhere]

Most cab cars 215-250 are like that

 

[gotransitboyhere]

Why would they keep the cab and most of its features

 

[RU479]

Why would they keep the cab and most of its features

It probably would’ve been too difficult to remove the entire cab and strip all the controls and cab features away, I also believe they retained them incase there was some flaw that required the CEMs to be taken out of service, and allow them to temporarily be put back into leading service.

 

[gotransitboyhere]

I wish bad on the CEM cab cars because I want to see 215-250 cab cars leading.

 

[T3G]

Well, the cars have been here for 7 years, and there's been no flaw uncovered that precludes them from leading trains. I suspect you may not get your wish.

 

[SaugeenJunction]

I wish bad on the CEM cab cars because I want to see 215-250 cab cars leading.

Honestly, why???

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Honestly, why???

Probably because he's a random rail fan who doesn't like them for some reason. I have people who love the T1's and hate the TR's or think we should keep the SRT cars running commenting stuff like that on my YouTube channel all of the time.

 

[RU479]

Yeah from a railfan perspective I prefer the Old Cab Cars design wise to the CEM ones, but that's just it, from a railfan perspective .

The CEMs are obviously better for crews and safety, and I would not want to have a horrible accident that could potentially result in mass injury, or worse death, just to have more old cab cars in service.

 

[robmausser]

Why would they keep the cab and most of its features

So when the government changes their minds in 6 months you don't have to waste a bunch of time and money, apparently.