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T3G said:
Do they at least run power to the cars every now and again? I hope the electrical systems on those cars will work if some have been parked out there for more than a year...
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Just a reminder that GO has been operating these coaches for 47 years, I’m sure they know how to correctly handle and take care of sidelined equipment, it’s in their best interest to keep them in good condition too
 
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Willybru21 said:
Just a reminder that GO has been operating these coaches for 47 years, I’m sure they know how to correctly handle and take care of sidelined equipment, it’s in their best interest to keep them in good condition too
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In theory sure, but in practice it could be very different.

In my hometown of Bratislava there was an entire mini fleet of trams (12 cars) that were out of service during the second wave of pandemic lockdowns (January - May 2021) that were hitherto very reliable, but since they came back they've had to be reduced to morning rush hour only operations because they break down a lot. I guess no thought to turn them on or take them for a jaunt at any point over those 5 months. And this was a professional transit agency that had been running those trams for almost 30 years.

Now granted, a tram is much more complex than a coach and a lot more can go wrong, but my point is, just because GO has a history with them, doesn't necessarily mean they'll make the right decisions at all times. Remember that those cars were not stored indoors, they were subjected to rain, heat, snow, and multiple freeze-thaw cycles. If they had to be taken out of service the very first days because things went wrong I would not find it remotely surprising, and entirely on brand for Metrolinx.
 
RS3488 said:
When I checked 204 a few days ago in that OOS line, I think one of it's disc brakes were rusty.

Noticed that a lot with out of service coaches, those brakes will get rusty very quickly if not moved often from what I've heard.
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That's how you judge the condition of the coaches? Have you ever parked your car outside for a week? The same thing can happen.
 
Bordercollie said:
That's how you judge the condition of the coaches? Have you ever parked your car outside for a week? The same thing can happen.
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I put new breaks on my car 2 years ago. I liked how clean they looked when I picked it up from the mechanic. Within a week they were already rusted right up. Mechanic told me that's normal.
 
RS3488 said:
When I checked 204 a few days ago in that OOS line, I saw one of it's disc brakes were rusty.

Noticed that a lot with out of service coaches, those brakes will get rusty very quickly if not moved often from what I've heard.
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After they run them and brake a few times they’ll look fine again, the brake disc isn’t compromised or anything, most of the fleet had that during the height of COVID
 
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Bordercollie said:
That's how you judge the condition of the coaches? Have you ever parked your car outside for a week? The same thing can happen.
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yea but it looks like they will be parked for months. who knows what will happen to them. have you ever left your car outside for 6 months untouched?
i would imagine that unmaintained brakes exposed to the elements would lead to seized calipers and lines which is another repair job for us taxpayers to fund needlessly.

lets see how they will maintain them.
 
cplchanb said:
lets see how they will maintain them.
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It’s strange that everyone here thinks this is the first time in almost 50 years that equipment has been out of service for an extended period of time… does everyone forget COVID? When most of the fleet was sitting in layover yards and sidings for months on end? Most of those coaches are back in service now and are doing just fine.
 
I do not deny that the coaches CAN be alright after sitting out of service for so long. My question is what are they doing to ensure this. vehicles having issues after being out of service for a long time is a known phenomenon, and the only assurance we are being given here in this thread that this won't be the case is "just trust me, bro".
 
T3G said:
I do not deny that the coaches CAN be alright after sitting out of service for so long. My question is what are they doing to ensure this. vehicles having issues after being out of service for a long time is a known phenomenon, and the only assurance we are being given here in this thread that this won't be the case is "just trust me, bro".
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This is basic vehicle maintenance that GO has been doing without issue for half a century. There is no reason for us to investigate whether these particular cab cars will be maintained just as all other coaches get maintained.

"Just trust me bro" is perfectly fine with me given that the whole topic is a non-issue. If you want to go investigate whether these particular coaches are somehow being improperly maintained then that's on you.
 
T3G said:
I do not deny that the coaches CAN be alright after sitting out of service for so long. My question is what are they doing to ensure this. vehicles having issues after being out of service for a long time is a known phenomenon, and the only assurance we are being given here in this thread that this won't be the case is "just trust me, bro".
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While we are all inquisitive about everything GO, it’s rather unrealistic to expect GO to justify their maintenance procedures to us . But I will go this far, by saying - railcar devices are built to tolerate long periods of inactivity, and a little bit of lubrication is all that is required to keep them fully ready for duty.

The obsession with these cab cars in this thread is pretty foamerly - maybe it’s time for people to stop having hissy fits just because GO for whatever reason has chosen not to deploy them just yet. They will get used when GO or the new operator needs to use them, which apparently isn’t just yet.

- Paul
 
Maybe let's leave my motivations for wondering about the cab cars to one side, please?

In a thread dedicated to GO Transit fleet equipment I dared ask a question about GO transit fleet equipment. I do not need my motivations for asking about it questioned, nor is it relevant to the contents of my question.

The discussion wasn't even about when the cars would enter service, it was a question about what they are doing to ensure the cars will be serviceable when our Almighty thinkers at Metrolinx finally decide it's time to put the cars into service. I even brought up a real world example of how the almighty transit agency isn't always correct, but apparently that's not relevant? Is it because we in Toronto who are stuck with the TTC and Metrolinx think we are somehow better than Central Europeans?
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Btw, who's having a hissy fit? In every post I've made I have been utterly calm. Though these dismissive responses are really starting to try my patience...
 
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