Bordercollie
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Why did they used to have dedicated switchers and now we don't?
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crs1026
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My understanding is that some classifications of shop personnel will move equipment within the yard, but movements that leave the yard onto the main line are performed by Running Trades who are rules qualified for the main line. Both groups are covered by the same collective agreement, but have different job classifications.
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allengeorge
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Most UP Express train cars 'condemned' after thermal cracks found in brake discs: union
Most of the fleet servicing the UP Express has been removed from operation after thermal cracks were discovered in the vehicle brake discs, according to the maintenance and operators’ union and confirmed by several sources, leaving Metrolinx with only four train cars in service for the rail link...
crs1026
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I'm not aware of GO ever having units dedicated to switching. Are you confusing GO with VIA?
Why maintain a unit just for switching when there are plenty of road units sitting idle?
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RU479
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4 out of the 18 cars in service means that’s only 2 trainsets at most…Most UP Express train cars 'condemned' after thermal cracks found in brake discs: union
Most of the fleet servicing the UP Express has been removed from operation after thermal cracks were discovered in the vehicle brake discs, according to the maintenance and operators’ union and confirmed by several sources, leaving Metrolinx with only four train cars in service for the rail link...toronto.ctvnews.ca
This has me wondering, once electrification comes, how will the UPE be handled? All I’ve heard is that they’ll use the same GO electric stock, but if that’s electric locos + BiLevels, they’d need to do some serious work on the Pearson span to get it to support the heavier loads.
Bordercollie
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Railpictures.ca - Michael Berry Photo: VIA Rail’s entire switcher fleet. VIA Rail has only two switchers (both ex-Inland Steel SW1000′s) and both are assigned to the Montreal Maintenance Centre. Here both are together and at rest on a quiet Saturda
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rbt
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Are you sure? The GO Bilevels are ~25% lighter than a UPE car. An electric-only locomotive will be about 25% heavier than a UPE car. A 12-car train would be too heavy but I'd bet a 3-car + electric-only locomotive would be okay.
Of course, both Pearson and Union station would require modifications for clearances and door placement.
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Bordercollie
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rbt
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I'm not following this comment. There will not be any GO Bi-level to EMU conversions; it's not structurally practical.
If you expect Alstom to replace UPX with a new EMU rolling stock, it would also very likely be lighter than the UPX rolling stock. I very much expect Alstom/DB to phase out UPX trains at the absolute earliest opportunity and electric locomotives are quite simple to design and build.
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RU479
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Considering that as of now, MX has stated no EMUs for electrification, I expect that, along with the fact MX seems to want to run Pearson trains past Union onto other lines, we will see electric locos + BiLevels on the Pearson Sub.
However I still have my worries on whether the Pearson bridge can support the heavier electric locos
However I still have my worries on whether the Pearson bridge can support the heavier electric locos
Bordercollie
Senior Member
I believe there is a plan to build a station before the airport spur
drum118
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That the Woodbine Station and already behind schedule being built to replace Etobicoke North Station.
At the same time, can't add the 4th track to match the 401/409 tunnels until Etobicoke North Station is remove or a change to match the track in place for the industrial track. Doing that has a safety issue for the current pedestrians crossing.
Then there are the stations doors that were build for the DMU if they will match the bi-level doors spacing, but not floor heights.
Given the timeframe that the DMU's were to be EMU's and where we are today, are 2 different things with an unknown date when it will happen. Maybe ML will have to find some use locomotives that would be able to run on the elevated line if none of the exist fleet can do the job until the line is electrify. Not my field for motor power and weight ratio to the elevated line.
This is what you get for rushing a project and not using the correct equipment from day one. A lot of I told you so are laughing over this mess. Going after the Pan Am games has really bit the rear of everyone.
superelevation
Active Member
Actually it is definitely doable, some EMUs (many actually) are composed of a mix of motor and trailer cars - New Jersey Transit is converting their BBD Multilevels into EMUs using new motor and power cars which look similar and pop into existing consists! This would actually be a pretty interesting solution for GO.
https://www.railwayage.com/passenge...-with-nj-transit-for-multilevel-iii-contract/
Well, they won't put a train on the guideway if it isn't strong enough. When they started using some larger trains in Vancouver on the SkyTrain they had to reinforce old sections of guideway, its certainly possible.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
That articles is from 2019. When are they going to be delivered? And why is bombardier crying poor about not having orders if they have options for 800 more cars.
superelevation
Active Member
Google around, probably pretty soon? I would guess they can't be built in Thunder Bay if they are going to US? Buy America requires final assembly in the US