[crs1026]

Better factcheck against the 2021 Business Case Analysis for the Kitchener line.

The service plan headway was only hourly 2WAD west of Mount Pleasant, and 30 minutes headway east of there. Intensive 2WAD only begins at Bramalea, because that's as far as ML is permitted to electrify.

I'm sure this plan has been revised, and one way headways at peak especially will be better....but this is a case where ML's publicity arm is creating an expectation way beyond what the track designers and funders are committed to.

- Paul

PS; As someone who regularly spends 2 hours on the 401 trying to travel between Waterloo and Etobicoke, all I can say is, we could have had, and ought to have had, 30 minute or better 2WAD headways a long time ago. They have come - but you haven't even built it yet.

 

[Chris R.]

yeah still zero public info about this work. Apparently it was supposed to start this summer...

Sick, very cool. Metrolinx loves Hamilton eh?

 

[TheHonestMaple]

Sick, very cool. Metrolinx loves Hamilton eh?

It actually blows my mind how underserved Hamilton is. It's the third largest city in Ontario, within 50km of Toronto, tons of commuters, two downtown stations. Little service, and poorly taken care of stations. Come on Metrolinx.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Welcome to UT!

There is a great amount of information that may answer your question in this thread - suggest you “read up” through the previous pages and see if that gives what you are seeking.

- Paul

Thank you! I did read through a few posts after searching, but it should be clear that I didn't know what search terms I was looking for with regards to rail plans. I'm more of an outsider looking in when it comes to transit, especially trains and such.

In short, yes, they want to do a flyover between the Credit River and Mount Pleasant. Here's the latest:

GO trains inch forward but hurdles delay full Kitchener service

Transit advocate criticizes provincial transit agency over “unnecessary secrecy” around all-day, two-way passenger service between Kitchener and Toronto

www.therecord.com

Metrolinx is pursuing it appears option 3 for the long term. Visualization here created not by Metrolinx, but by the Brampton Board of Trade from this file:

I appreciate you sharing the visualization and the file. It answers a lot more questions that I had. I'm definitely bookmarking this so I don't lose it. My only questions now are what happens when we hit Railroad Street in downtown Brampton, the grade crossings at Mill/Railroad and John/James, and the bridges around Main, Union, Queen, above the Etobicoke Creek, and Centre Street. Obviously I don't expect answers if it's not known, but I'd like to imagine that they'd try to create some sort of bridge or flyover or something of the sort, but I can't imagine what they'd do given just how small that whole area is.

 

[Allandale25]

^ what happens in downtown Brampton is a third track and the likely full closure of Railroad Street between Mill and George. The design contract was awarded for the third platform on the south side at the Brampton Station.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

^ what happens in downtown Brampton is a third track and the likely full closure of Railroad Street between Mill and George. The design contract was awarded for the third platform on the south side at the Brampton Station.

Sweet. Thank you for the info!

 

[crs1026]

Hopefully there will be an open house or two once the design is firmed up.

- Paul

 

[Krypto98]

^ what happens in downtown Brampton is a third track and the likely full closure of Railroad Street between Mill and George. The design contract was awarded for the third platform on the south side at the Brampton Station.

Is there no way they can do a 4th track with some expropiation? Would be significantly more expensive but long term would have way more capacity and options...

 

[crs1026]

Is there no way they can do a 4th track with some expropiation? Would be significantly more expensive but long term would have way more capacity and options...

Yeah, if it were my decision I would do the fourth track at the same time and be done with it. It will however have to go on the north side, which means moving the heritage station and twice as much retaining walls etc. So I can understand (sort of) the decision to leave that for another day.

It's doubly complicated because of all the redevelopment Brampton is considering around the station.

- Paul

 

[Chris R.]

 

[Metroscapes]

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That looks like a strange hump along the south abutment, I'm not sure why it was retained. Is there enough space for two tracks and ballast between the north abutment and the bottom of the slope?

 

[crs1026]

looks like itis seeded so I'm guessing it's the final grading, with a turnout right where thebumpers are to merge the two platform tracks. Clearly there will only be one track west of the overpass ( for now, anyways)

- Paul

 

[Allandale25]

Recent pictures via this tweet for Bloor GO/Kitchener Line 4 track:

Digging deep! Crews are hard at work constructing the pedestrian pavilion near Bloor GO Station. Learn more about the ongoing Kitchener track work project here: https://bit.ly/49aIL5I

 

[TheHonestMaple]

I’ve noticed that all new signals have been installed from West Harbour/Hamilton Centre to Oakville, and work seems to be continuing beyond that. Much heavier duty gantries and much higher than the old ones. Is this related to electrification? I’m assuming it is.

 

[crs1026]

I’ve noticed that all new signals have been installed from West Harbour/Hamilton Centre to Oakville, and work seems to be continuing beyond that. Much heavier duty gantries and much higher than the old ones. Is this related to electrification? I’m assuming it is.

The old signalling was 60 years or so old, so would have been up for replacement anyways, thanks to advances in LED and microprocessor technology. But you can be sure that it's being done to the electrification spec.

- Paul