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Regarding the stop spacing, we don't really know what the majority of local riders prefer. A rapid line with a wide stop spacing, and a long walk to a stop for many residents. Or, a line with closer stop spacing, shorter walks, but running slower because of that.

Maybe, a poll amongst the locals is needed. Printed questionnaires sent to randomly selected local mailboxes, plus an online form that can only be submitted when geolocation is enabled and shows your device within 1 km from any point along FWLRT.

Sure, there are ways to bypass those restrictions, but most of people won't bother trying to bypass them, and the outcome will be sufficiently local.
 
doublemint said:
Has anyone times Finch West-Humber College with TSP at every intersection?

Besides that, what, according to the City, still needs to improve for the line to go faster?
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I rode it just now.

FW is still disgustingly slow. It took me 15-20 minutes to reach Jane from FW stn at that point which I just gave up and turned back because riding this line is actually torture.

TSP will not help until the trains actually drive at 60 KMH between stations.
 
Good transit priority will help in any scenario, but there is one restriction. An absolute priority for the LRT at major intersections would not only mess up the general cross traffic, it would mess up busy bus routes like Jane, Islington, Kipling. LRT riders benefit, bus riders suffer from longer trips and poorly spaced headways. I don't think this is desirable.

Thus, yes to predictive transit-phase management in favour of LRT; no to absolute priority in such cases.

At minor intersections, where cross traffic is lighter, and there are either no bus routes or there is an infrequent bus branch, absolute LRT priority is possible.
 
It was already known that the issue on Finch wasn't related to signal priority because as was documented the buses that ran on Finch previously without transit priority was way faster. On Eglinton the transit priority will make a difference because the vehicles themselves were running on the line quickly and then at times getting stuck at lights. On Finch the transit priority may make a difference... but it is the difference between abysmal and very bad.
 
TRONto said:
Anyone know why the LRT isn't 24 hours? If the streetcars downtown can run 24/7, the LRT should be able to also. Is it a contractual thing?
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If it’s being treated as a higher-order line and shown on the subway map as such, I’m more curious why its hours don’t align with the subways'. I assume the same will apply to Line 5 as well? A 40-minute difference doesn’t really seem to serve much purpose and will likely inconvenience plenty of people out late.
 
TRONto said:
That's a good point. It is odd that the LRT hours don't align with the subway.
JasonParis said:
If it’s being treated as a higher-order line and shown on the subway map as such, I’m more curious why its hours don’t align with the subways'. I assume the same will apply to Line 5 as well? A 40-minute difference doesn’t really seem to serve much purpose and will likely inconvenience plenty of people out late.
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The last westbound Line 6 trip is at 1:05 AM, and last eastbound at 1:30 AM. I think it is due to the private maintainer Mosaic and also Metrolinx ownership of the line and it rearing it's head. Line 5 will likely be better, I mean it already only closes at 11 unlike Line 6 that closed at 10.
 
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JasonParis said:
If it’s being treated as a higher-order line and shown on the subway map as such, I’m more curious why its hours don’t align with the subways'. I assume the same will apply to Line 5 as well? A 40-minute difference doesn’t really seem to serve much purpose and will likely inconvenience plenty of people out late.
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There's a strange irony there in that David Miller's push to have all, or almost all, bus routes run to subway hours was framed at the time as a safety issue, as many using the subway at that time of day were young people going home from service jobs who felt vulnerable having to walk "the last mile" of their trip home well after midnight from stations where the buses had stopped running for the night, and the Blue Night network was much smaller then and less frequent.

Now we have the inverse with high complaints about safety while actually on the TTC late at night.
 
JasonParis said:
If it’s being treated as a higher-order line and shown on the subway map as such, I’m more curious why its hours don’t align with the subways'. I assume the same will apply to Line 5 as well? A 40-minute difference doesn’t really seem to serve much purpose and will likely inconvenience plenty of people out late.
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thettctransitfanatic's point about the maintainers is a pretty good one.

But keep in mind that the SRT's end time didn't align with the subway's, either. It's last trip outbound was at about the same time as the subway's last trip westbound - which meant that it ended service about 25 minutes before the last subway arrived. So it's not like there isn't a precedent for this.

Dan
 
jmi22 said:
I understand the mention of stop removal, as it would be immensely beneficial, but it sits in the same realm of possibility as the elevating the at-grade segment of Line 5. City will never push for it, MX has no interest in mothballing infrastructure (even if it's worse than useless) and the whole neighbourhood would have a melt down if it was even attempted.

Project run times with TSP all you want, but the stops that are there, will stay, and it's a bit pointless to imagine what essentially amount to a rebuild of segments of the line.
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How about making it stop request only?
 
max said:
That's a great idea! Unfortunately Metrolinx will then have to add bilingual announcements about it before every stop and this thread will grow by another five pages :(
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It would be fine if they simply said "request stop" and the French equivalent afterwards.

However, because it IS Metrolinx we're dealing with, they'd probably do some shit, with the volume turned up so loud it would defeat military grade noise cancelling headphones, like: "The next stop is a request stop. To request the next stop, ensure you press the stop request button well ahead of time. Remember to hold on or remain seated until the vehicle comes to a complete stop and to watch your step as you exit. This vehicle can stop at any time without warning and the danger is real. Ensure that you have all your personal belongings before exiting. Thanks for choosing Line 6." And then repeat in French.

Why anyone would have a problem with hearing that after every goddamn stop, who knows... /s
 
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