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If you seen how they are operating it, you can clearly see the 36 bus moves faster without traffic.
Even in mixed traffic the 36 is faster than the LRT.

Comparing this tine to any TTC lines, the 512 is the closest comparison betweeb the lines and it will be slower than Finch
 
The time improvements will be limited to the area around the 400 interchange, and the approaches to Keele Station and to Humber College; otherwise I don’t see it being any faster than the bus it replaces. But these small sections alone hopefully will result in an improved operation.
 
Even in mixed traffic the 36 is faster than the LRT.
Is it? Even right now at 7 pm on the weekend, from Humber College to Finch West is 38 minutes.

But at PM peak, the 36 is 54 minutes for that 11 km! That's 12. 5 km.hr. I know we've tossed around some low speeds for Line 6. But I've never seen any that low. And somehow westbound is even lower at 59 minutes - if it's on time!

Where does this "faster than LRT" come from?

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I drove across the line and noticed the area around the CP overpass (Weston road) still hasn't been paved and has temporary road signs
 
I drove across the line and noticed the area around the CP overpass (Weston road) still hasn't been paved and has temporary road signs
IIRC, the multi use path under that CP Rail line is also still not done? I suggested to the Toronto Star a while back to do an investigation on that part due to the lack of accountability but haven't seen anything yet. Maybe @atakagi1 can help?
 
IIRC, the multi use path under that CP Rail line is also still not done? I suggested to the Toronto Star a while back to do an investigation on that part due to the lack of accountability but haven't seen anything yet. Maybe @atakagi1 can help?
this is mostly due to CPKC always being uncooperative about any kind of construction work being done anywhere near their tracks. Especially along the MacTier Sub as it's their only connection to their intermodal terminal in Vaughan
 
Having taken this exact route last month on a Sunday I can attest to the accuracy of this pacing. It was a bit surreal seeing the empty LRT trains out the window go by. But the bus does stop a LOT.


Is it? Even right now at 7 pm on the weekend, from Humber College to Finch West is 38 minutes.

But at PM peak, the 36 is 54 minutes for that 11 km! That's 12. 5 km.hr. I know we've tossed around some low speeds for Line 6. But I've never seen any that low. And somehow westbound is even lower at 59 minutes - if it's on time!

Where does this "faster than LRT" come from?

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Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself. Light rail was never going to be able to compete in terms of regional travel with private vehicles using 400 series highways, but "losing the race" on the LRT's own corridor should really prompt some introspection if such modes are worth the billions going forward. Even on the subways worst day's, the chances of them losing a 1-1 race along Bloor, Yonge or Danforth against a car on the same street is one in a million.

This will definitely be an improvement for existing riders (excluding the objectively worse weather protection offered by the LRT stations) but by no means should we expect an uptick in "choice riders" taking transit, a goal which subways undoubtedly accomplish.
 
Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself.
How do you know it doesn't, now we've established just how much faster it is than the buses at peak - or even on a Sunday (to my surprise).
 
this is mostly due to CPKC always being uncooperative about any kind of construction work being done anywhere near their tracks. Especially along the MacTier Sub as it's their only connection to their intermodal terminal in Vaughan
They have signed a construction agreement (per the recent board minutes) with Metrolinx for the St Clair UPX station so clearly there is some work on/by the MacTier that CPKC can live with, in the right circumstances
 

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