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felix123
Active Member
I notice this in the videos too. The LRT will have a long straightaway (in its own ROW, of course) yet it's still being passed by the majority of cars that are sharing a lane. Line 5 seems to be even worse.
You can go to Berlin and see the dedicated ROW trams there easily outcompete road traffic in terms of speed, so it's not as if we can't do it here too.
jmi22
Active Member
I'm not sure what argument you are chasing, in the post you initially responded to I was comparing the travel times of private vehicles along Finch to the LRT.
"Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself. "
I promise you would feel so much less angst should you dedicate a whole 90 seconds to watching a stretch of the video where drum118 (in his car) comes up alongside a LRT, and quickly passes it in light-moderate traffic over a series of about 3 intersections, before permanently leaving it behind.
nfitz
Superstar
Ah - my apologies. Though it's the bus it needs to beat to grow ridership.
Recall that the premise of the line back in 2007 wasn't so much current travel speeds, but increased future congestion if they didn't do something, with "A Place to Grow". The whole idea is that by diverting more travel to transit, that the congestion won't be as bad.
That said, when I checked the travel times for bus at PM peak, it showed up to an hour driving time (which I assume means the bus will also be late). I suspect the LRT will be much more predictable.
Metroscapes
Active Member
This is fun, you should make (or partner with someone to make) a proposed translated TTC map.
JasonParis
Moderator
As an aside, Line 6 should just be Finch. We don't call Line 4 Sheppard East.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Excited!
Mihairokov
Senior Member
Amare
Senior Member
Maybe it's because Metrolinx has accepted deep down, that a Finch East extension will never be built in any of our lifetimes, whereas Sheppard has a twinkling tiny chance of being extended.
jordanmkasla2009
Active Member
which video? the one they most recently posted? If that is the case, as I have said repeatedly over the course of this month, RSD is over and they are training one last class of operators before opening and are not adhering to any sort of schedule so take the travel times, headways and speeds with a grain of salt because they are training operators without having the added pressure of potentially slowing down or interrupting an in-service line.
nfitz
Superstar
Also - for 3 intersections? What time of day? Which day of the week? Which location?
In light traffic? Why would anyone ever expect the LRT to be faster than a streetcar in light traffic? The subway isn't compared to surface transit - except perhaps a couple of spots with very long spacing, and or it's running diagonal, and cutting travel distance.
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T3G
Senior Member
Charitably, perhaps this could be interpreted as being a shot at the TTC's slow streetcar policies which I would expect to carry over onto the LRTs. And sure, it's something we can do a lot better at than we currently do, but the excessive focus on a transit line being a bit slower than it could otherwise be strikes me as missing the forest for the trees.
People aren't going to skip using the LRT because it takes 5 minutes longer than a car. That's a really trivial amount, especially if the service runs frequently. People don't choose transit when it's a situation as seen in the suburbs. GO buses stuck in traffic, or even local connections being slow and infrequent. My brother stopped going to a college that is a 20 minute drive away from bus because his commute took him an hour and a half one way!!!
nottoban
New Member
Station names, street names, and destination names are treated as proper nouns — even when they include cardinal directions. This is because translated names don’t carry past Metrolinx-owned infrastructure. At TTC interchanges and everywhere else, a French translation would disappear the moment you leave an MX station. Keeping the original name as a proper noun preserves continuity for French speakers instead of giving them a one-off translated label that exists in limited form but disappears for other parts of their journey.
jmi22
Active Member
I'm very confused as to what you are comparing the LRT to? I never mentioned streetcars, and the subway does in fact run faster than streetcars since you have brought that up.
It honestly feels like you are barely skimming everything you are responding to, leading to very confusing responses
ShonTron
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