[bearcat]

I was out on Finch today near Highway 27 and logged 11 different trams out testing.

They were running quite regularly until about 13:00, then things seemed to come to a halt.

The two last westbound cars sat for a long time waiting to enter the Humber College tunnel, then set up to reverse eastwards on the north (westward) track. I was not able to hang around long enough to see if they did operate ACOT, but on driving east I encountered the next car turning back through the turnouts west of Albion. One or two earlier trams had gone into the tunnel but did not reappear before my departure. Don't know if something broke somewhere, or if this was a deliberate test or training exercise.

I noticed that some cars have had their coupler shrouds removed, while others have not. Considerable use of both horn and bell (they have both).

Call me crazy, but I am not impressed with the new traffic signage either on Finch or on Eglinton. Seems like cognitive overload for motorists, and mostly intended so that the cops can ask, "Didn't you see the sign?" after the inevitable mishap. Too many signs, not well placed, I'm not sure that it conveys the most important message: Don't drive down the tracks! I did see one car misjudge and start to enter the track lane, realised their error and backed out.

- Paul

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Is the TTC logo 3D?

 

[nightstreak]

Call me crazy, but I am not impressed with the new traffic signage either on Finch or on Eglinton. Seems like cognitive overload for motorists, and mostly intended so that the cops can ask, "Didn't you see the sign?" after the inevitable mishap. Too many signs, not well placed, I'm not sure that it conveys the most important message: Don't drive down the tracks! I did see one car misjudge and start to enter the track lane, realised their error and backed out.

- Paul

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Ontario's Highway Traffic Act relies way too heavily on reading text. Are they expecting people to pay attention to the road or to read a recipe for ratatouille while driving?

 

[TDE]

Is the TTC logo 3D?

It pops out (not flat), if that's what you're inquiring about.

Got a couple close(er) up shots for you.

 

[JBR]

Roads reopen after LRT fire in North York

Toronto police have reopened Finch Avenue West between Driftwood Avenue and Sentinel Road in North York after it was closed for several hours due to a Light Rail Transit (LRT) vehicle fire on Monday afternoon. Toronto Fire responded to reports of flames and smoke coming from the roof of the...

toronto.citynews.ca

 

[bearcat]

It pops out (not flat), if that's what you're inquiring about.

Got a couple close(er) up shots for you.
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yes, that's exactly what I meant

 

[cplchanb]

Roads reopen after LRT fire in North York

Toronto police have reopened Finch Avenue West between Driftwood Avenue and Sentinel Road in North York after it was closed for several hours due to a Light Rail Transit (LRT) vehicle fire on Monday afternoon. Toronto Fire responded to reports of flames and smoke coming from the roof of the...

toronto.citynews.ca

Well.... there goes any hope of a 2025 opening for Line 6 lol

 

[TOtramz]

What's the fastest time it could take to restring the wires and certify everything is safe to reopen?

 

[rbt]

What's the fastest time it could take to restring the wires and certify everything is safe to reopen?

TTC has rebuilt Spadina overhead in a couple days after a truck caught on a wire.

This is a bit different since it was being used as intended and Metrolinx hasn't taken ownership from the contractor yet. Might be an LRT problem, might be an installation problem (worker didn't follow design at that specific location), might be a problem with a particular batch of a component, but hopefully it's not a design problem common through the entire line.

 

[nfitz]

TTC has rebuilt Spadina overhead in a couple days after a truck caught on a wire.

This is a bit different since it was being used as intended and Metrolinx hasn't taken ownership from the contractor yet.

Did the wire fall because the Citadis was on fire, or did the Citadis burn because the wire fell?

Presumably the repairs for both the car and the wiring should be straight-forward.

 

[rbt]

Did the wire fall because the Citadis was on fire, or did the Citadis burn because the wire fell?

Good question: For either situation to occur I would expect multiple problems to exist. A pantograph catching a wire usually leads to power being cut by a breaker; not a fire. I've yet to find any photos of the incident though.

 

[TOtramz]

TTC has rebuilt Spadina overhead in a couple days after a truck caught on a wire.

This is a bit different since it was being used as intended and Metrolinx hasn't taken ownership from the contractor yet. Might be an LRT problem, might be an installation problem (worker didn't follow design at that specific location), might be a problem with a particular batch of a component, but hopefully it's not a design problem common through the entire line.

Sounds like they will have to do extensive investigations before repairing the line, which will further delay operator training.

 

[smallspy]

Good question: For either situation to occur I would expect multiple problems to exist. A pantograph catching a wire usually leads to power being cut by a breaker; not a fire. I've yet to find any photos of the incident though.

The power cut happens because the system detects a short circuit, not because it detects anything wrong with a pan - it simply can't, it's not designed to.

The use of "smart pans" like those installed on the legacy network can also help, as the cars can detect power fluctuations in the overhead and can pull them off of the wire. The pans themselves also have sensors and can detect geometric flaws with the overhead, and drop them before they can get ensnared.

If the cars aren't equipped with smart pans - and in most dedicated high frequency networks, they don't need to be - then a flaw in the wire could and would absolutely result in what happened yesterday.

Dan

 

[Vortex112]

The article doesn’t make it clear if it was the OCS lines that fell or some other hydro lines not associated with the LRT. Are there still hydro lines that cross Finch? Strange that there’s no pictures anywhere.

 

[ViewerOfToronto]

The article doesn’t make it clear if it was the OCS lines that fell or some other hydro lines not associated with the LRT. Are there still hydro lines that cross Finch? Strange that there’s no pictures anywhere.

Might be the OCS lines as I have seen crews working on the line today near Sentinel.

Anyways the white wall in the second Finch West station entrance/exit has came down, revealing the connection between Line 1 and 6.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

The power cut happens because the system detects a short circuit, not because it detects anything wrong with a pan - it simply can't, it's not designed to.

The use of "smart pans" like those installed on the legacy network can also help, as the cars can detect power fluctuations in the overhead and can pull them off of the wire. The pans themselves also have sensors and can detect geometric flaws with the overhead, and drop them before they can get ensnared.

If the cars aren't equipped with smart pans - and in most dedicated high frequency networks, they don't need to be - then a flaw in the wire could and would absolutely result in what happened yesterday.

Dan

wouldn't even necessarily be a wire flaw that would cause it. a spontaneous carbon contact strip failure can cause a snag which could cause the pantograph to break and become ensnared in the wire and pull it down.