[Coolibop]

An infill station of the SSE at brimley? So brimley would be the terminus station for the Danforth subway line and the Eglinton east connects there? If that is what you're suggesting that makes tons of sense too. I'm not oppose to that.

I believe the suggestion is to have infll station at Brimley along line 2. The SSE will still terminate at Sheppard McCowan (it's already under construction). The only loss is the (EELRT) stops between Kennedy and Brimley, which I would argue would already be well served by Kennedy station (already half way between it and Midland) and new stop at Brimley.

 

[Northern Light]

An infill station of the SSE at brimley? So brimley would be the terminus station for the Danforth subway line and the Eglinton east connects there? If that is what you're suggesting that makes tons of sense too. I'm not oppose to that.

Eglinton East would terminate at a station at Brimley/Eglinton, (Line 2), yes.

So the route would be eliminated west of Brimley.

This shortens the bus route, eliminates multiple traffic lights, and route congestion, resulting in shorter travel times for route users.

What projects have been put forth that replaces or improves the EELRT corridor, I haven't seen any

Aside from the EELRT itself (which again, is not the right solution}.

You need to think about a proposed subway extension along a corridor in the north end of the City and how its eastern terminus might be sited. (best I can do for now, LOL)

 

[Aplus23]

Eglinton East would terminate at a station at Brimley/Eglinton, (Line 2), yes.

So the route would be eliminated west of Brimley.

This shortens the bus route, eliminates multiple traffic lights, and route congestion, resulting in shorter travel times for route users.



Aside from the EELRT itself (which again, is not the right solution}.

You need to think about a proposed subway extension along a corridor in the north end of the City and how its eastern terminus might be sited. (best I can do for now, LOL)

Line 2 ending at brimley makes sense, it's another transfer if I wanted to go along Eglinton & the crosstown, but that's a quibble worth giving up for a transit project of this size.

Extending Sheppard east to McCown does help the northern part of Scarborough, it doesn't really help the eastern/southern part of Scarborough beyond McCown. Extending it to Morningside like one of those proposals is cool, I'm game for that as well. The EELRT would still integrate well with that alignment.
Again, east of McCown is a transit desert aside from two GO stations, nothing proposed changes that other than EELRT and option C of the Sheppard extension.

 

[nfitz]

Line 2 ending at brimley makes sense, it's another transfer if I wanted to go along Eglinton & the crosstown, but that's a quibble worth giving up for a transit project of this size.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Line 2 should have ended at Brimley. It's this line that would have ended at Brimley/Eglinton/Danforth if there had have been a Line 2 station at Brimely, in the 3.6 kilometre gap between Kennedy and Lawrence East stations.

 

[bearcat]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Line 2 should have ended at Brimley. It's this line that would have ended at Brimley/Eglinton/Danforth if there had have been a Line 2 station at Brimely, in the 3.6 kilometre gap between Kennedy and Lawrence East stations.

Is it too late for this? With the tunnel boring machine stuck is there time to still add this?

 

[ishblack1]

Is there absolutely no work arounds to extend line 5?

 

[nfitz]

Is it too late for this? With the tunnel boring machine stuck is there time to still add this?

Probably not too late; but not feasible from a contractual/financial basis.

I don't know how hard it would be to do retroactively. Or if they protected a future infill station by at least putting in a straight section somewhere long enough. Some of the early designs included a space for the station, but I don't know how it ended.

 

[Northern Light]

Is it too late for this? With the tunnel boring machine stuck is there time to still add this?

It can be done. The added cost (ballpark, given that I lack certain details) ~400M.

Not cheap, but much cheaper than the EELRT!

It has the added benefit, that if one did want to build the EELRT in the future, it would significantly shorten the route, by ~2.5km and considerably reduce its cost. (by more than 400M, its worth saying). That's before counting that removing the EELRT west of Brimley reduces the number of vehicles required by at least 3, and then that also reduces the size of the MSF.

 

[JBR]

I specifically advised the City that a Brimley/Eglinton stop on the SSE better furthers the UTSC access objective at a considerably lesser cost.

Seems like a no brainer here. Lotta buses already serve Brimley-Kennedy (station) along Eglinton. The 3.5km between Kennedy and Lawrence seems rather long and the 4 corners of Brimley/Eg are prime for development given their size.

I believe a city councillor pitched the idea years and years ago (when it was still a 3 stop City project) to study having a station here but it was shot down.

But it's not waterfront property or deep in the heart of the city or expanding to some new bustling urban district where developers can enrich themselves, so it doesn't deserve much if any attention, smh lol

This confuses me because the WaterFront LRT has been delayed the same as the EELRT. Scarborough is getting SSE and Sheppard subway extensions.

I wonder from Morningside/Ellesmere would it be quicker to take the EELRT to Kennedy or take a bus to STC and then the new subway extension.

I think the point myself and Northern (don’t want to speak for him) are trying to get across is that there’s better ways to build this

 

[Aplus23]

Seems like a no brainer here. Lotta buses already serve Brimley-Kennedy (station) along Eglinton. The 3.5km between Kennedy and Lawrence seems rather long and the 4 corners of Brimley/Eg are prime for development given their size.

I believe a city councillor pitched the idea years and years ago (when it was still a 3 stop City project) to study having a station here but it was shot down.


This confuses me because the WaterFront LRT has been delayed the same as the EELRT. Scarborough is getting SSE and Sheppard subway extensions.

I wonder from Morningside/Ellesmere would it be quicker to take the EELRT to Kennedy or take a bus to STC and then the new subway extension.

I think the point myself and Northern (don’t want to speak for him) are trying to get across is that there’s better ways to build this

I agree, I want it elevated if I had it my way. Yeah the Lawrence & STC stops will be some help. Still we're treating McCowan as the epicenter of Scarborough for some odd reason lol. Well it's not odd, it's cuz of the STC my assumption.

On another note, what I'm gathering is that this line 2 tunnel travels east from Kennedy on Eglinton towards McCowan before turning left & heading north to Lawrence & STC? Is that correct?

 

[Northern Light]

On another note, what I'm gathering is that this line 2 tunnel travels east from Kennedy on Eglinton towards McCowan before turning left & heading north to Lawrence & STC? Is that correct?

Yes.

 

[mossynukes]

Last I recall, the reason that the crosstown could not be extended east of Kennedy, was because of elevation issues at Kennedy station. How could Brimley/Eglinton serve as the new interchange if the Line 5 cannot be extended east? Doesn't this require rebuilding Kennedy station to allow for this east extension of the Line 5? If this is the case, then why build an additional interchange if rebuilding Kennedy station is all that is necessary to allow for further extension of line 5?

 

[smallspy]

Last I recall, the reason that the crosstown could not be extended east of Kennedy, was because of elevation issues at Kennedy station. How could Brimley/Eglinton serve as the new interchange if the Line 5 cannot be extended east? Doesn't this require rebuilding Kennedy station to allow for this east extension of the Line 5? If this is the case, then why build an additional interchange if rebuilding Kennedy station is all that is necessary to allow for further extension of line 5?

If there is a subway between Kennedy and Brimley - with stops at both of those locations - why is there also a need for a paralleling LRT as well?

That is what the suggestion is here. Keep the Crosstown to west of Kennedy Station, and the Eglinton East/Malvern line west of Brimley. Between the two could be the subway..

Dan

 

[JBR]

Last I recall, the reason that the crosstown could not be extended east of Kennedy, was because of elevation issues at Kennedy station. How could Brimley/Eglinton serve as the new interchange if the Line 5 cannot be extended east? Doesn't this require rebuilding Kennedy station to allow for this east extension of the Line 5? If this is the case, then why build an additional interchange if rebuilding Kennedy station is all that is necessary to allow for further extension of line 5?

Line5 will never extend. They claim it’s now impossible due to GO and SSE expansions. City wants to build an LRT station in the arena parking lot instead

If you read the report on EELRT it’s a fully separate line, and possibly fully different vehicles too.

The idea of terminating at Brimley is to build a subway stop along the current SSE at Brimley and starting EELRT from there. While this idea is not ideal, neither is the parking lot idea for EERLT. Transfer mania at Kennedy. And to think Tory said the transfer from Line2 to SRT was bad…

 

[robmausser]

Line5 will never extend. They claim it’s now impossible due to GO and SSE expansions. City wants to build an LRT station in the arena parking lot instead

If you read the report on EELRT it’s a fully separate line, and possibly fully different vehicles too.

The idea of terminating at Brimley is to build a subway stop along the current SSE at Brimley and starting EELRT from there. While this idea is not ideal, neither is the parking lot idea for EERLT. Transfer mania at Kennedy. And to think Tory said the transfer from Line2 to SRT was bad…

At the end of the day, while personally I would have prefered a Line 5 extension, the original Malvern LRT was planned as a separate line, so really its not like we are getting jipped, this was what was supposed to happen from the get go.