Tropical
Active Member
Thank you. The near constant framing of our (very affluent) province as perpetual victims is exhausting.
They very literally just adjusted our HoC seats upward in recognition of our population growth...
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They very literally just adjusted our HoC seats upward in recognition of our population growth...
Offworld
Active Member
Fair enough perhaps, if you then agree to reduce the overabundance of seats in the Maritimes accordingly.
BASE
Active Member
Agreed there was some addition to make up part of the gap. My calculation based on 2021 census was 11.5% of Canada population vs. 10.8% of the seats so it's closer and one might expect the 4th largest province to be a bit under represented compared to it's share of the population. The big issue that isn't easy to address is the big population growth that continues to occur which now has AB at 12% of the national population at time of the first election under these revisions.
Whatup
Active Member
Expecting fair and equal representation in the Senate and HOC is not perpetual victimization - its just expecting what is fair. Alberta and Western Canada historically have not been treated well by Central Canada hence the constant tension and element of regional alienation that exists. I mean, its not even half as exhausting as the Quebec whining and disruption and three separation referendums and the massive amounts of financial and political support they receive - now that is exhausting.
Whatup
Active Member
Its not fast enough - Quebec whines about Alberta getting more seats and they demand a extra seat even though they did not meet the criteria to get a new seat - and their demands are instantly met. But yeah - Alberta is full of whiners. Its a joke.
Whatup
Active Member
But the problem is not all provinces getting what they should - some get way too many. In close elections this matters and the Maritimes gets a lot of support from the Liberals. The rule should be a mathematical equation for all Senate and HOC seats that applies to every province equally. However, in complicated and politically corrupt Canada this seems like a bridge too far - and all it does is feed regionalism and alienation which will never go away until these issues are resolved.
The_Cat
Senior Member
The average federal riding has about 120,000 constituents. It used to be representation by population (about 265 seats), but since 1986 The Representation Act stated that no province could have a decrease in seats. However, provinces like Alberta, BC and Ontario could have seats added as a result of the growing population.
thommyjo
Senior Member
I’m looking forward to the next census. The 2021 data for neighbourhoods showed some mature areas really starting to rebound after 30-40 years of decline for many. This next round should give us great insights into the difference infill is making.
channing76
New Member
I look forward to every census being the nerd that I am.
Kosy123
Senior Member
I’m looking forward to seeing the numbers in the core. We’re probably going to see a large increase due to the combination of more residential units coming in, much lower vacancy rates and school being in person again.
I think we really got the short end of the stick a bit last census when areas like Wîhkwêntôwin, Garneau and Strathcona had flat or negative residential growth due to the usual student population missing from the data that census.
I think we really got the short end of the stick a bit last census when areas like Wîhkwêntôwin, Garneau and Strathcona had flat or negative residential growth due to the usual student population missing from the data that census.
The_Cat
Senior Member
If we use the 2023 (Metro, 1,544,000) population, inflate it by 5.73%, we get 1,632,471 in 2024, and the projected increase of 2.6% means 1,674,915 in 2025. Sources, Statistics Canada and Q1 2025 Edmonton Economic Update.
BASE
Active Member
We really may continue to ride a wave of affordability and some future resource projects supporting growth enroute to 2,000,000 in the region before we know it. At which point we should have a lrt system (low and high floor combined) with 50+km of track with, perhaps some clarity on the future of intercity rail in the province, and hopefully a rejuvenated and lively central Edmonton.
Glenco
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TAS
Senior Member
I didn't know Saskatchewan at 900,000 was our 3rd most populated province until 1943 (for a good portion of the first half of the 1900s).
Alberta and BC virtually the same (projected) by 2100 at nearly 12 million with Quebec not that far behind. Wow - huge numbers.
Meanwhile, Sask only grows by another 700,000 from 1943 to 2100.
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David A
Senior Member
The division seems quite stark in these projections, four very provinces with very big populations and the rest much smaller.
However, I kind of wonder if things like affordability and land availability will restrain growth more in some places and facilitate it more in others.
Although metro Edmonton already has more people than most provinces (except the top four) do.
However, I kind of wonder if things like affordability and land availability will restrain growth more in some places and facilitate it more in others.
Although metro Edmonton already has more people than most provinces (except the top four) do.