What do you think of this project?

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Stevey_G said:
Gotta agree with Ken on this one. That floor plate is tiny.

The podium space however, will make for a phenomenal community attraction if built as imagined.
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Well let's wait and see what the final-ish design looks like, as I highly doubt the latest iteration we've seen will be what is finally proposed for construction.
 
danimori said:
Not sure if this is controversial but I am starting to feel that I hope this tower ends up being much shorter than initially proposed. I hope something gets built, and that they can keep the interesting podium/valley interaction., but not sure if the height would be a net positive. 🙃
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What "can keep the interesting podium/valley interaction"? There is no podium in this space now. This a prestigious location and the very best location in the city to showcase a mixed-use Tower. Of course a large sweeping podium than connects the park below and river valley will be a component of that. But having a hotel, residences and offices and connection into the convention centre and Canada Place is a win this city needs.
 
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I was told by Alldritt insiders that I should look to this for inspiration on what we will get.
 
Hopeful that Aldritt will stick with their initial plans and use that historical brick they have stored for the podium. If they could accomplish anything close to what was done with Kelley Ramsay's podium along with a sleek designed tower, we'll have something really special. This is their chance to be the premier showpiece of downtown.. Just do it right. Stantec had that chance but failed.
 
danimori said:
Not sure if this is controversial but I am starting to feel that I hope this tower ends up being much shorter than initially proposed. I hope something gets built, and that they can keep the interesting podium/valley interaction., but not sure if the height would be a net positive. 🙃
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Hopefully they build it at the original height, but I totally agree with you. It just doesn't feel like it's gonna be built at the orginal height. Similar to the tower behind Hotel Macdonald.
 
archited said:
The sales centre will likely be an outfitted trailer moved onto the site north of the Russian Orthodox Cathedral so I doubt one will see it as a normal building permit. Once the sales centre is in place that event will coincide with a development permit for a specific project with renderings, floor plans, and elevations. As I mentioned before, because the below-ground elements of this project are so significant, I would expect to see a building permit for foundations to be applied for in advance of a full-on building permit. Caveat -- no one from Alldritt has suggested to me that this will be the methodology going forward -- it just makes sense.to me and if I were the project architect it is what I would be pushing for several reasons: 1. cachet -- it verifies at the outset that the project is real and that the developers are serious, 2. it breaks out a more manageable project phase separate from the total, 3. it allows for an earlier start, and 4. it consumes media attention.
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Good points. Ironically, I think the initial ambitiousness of the project made people a bit more skeptical that it would go ahead. However, if people can be shown it is real and happening, this could get it a lot of attention, interest and maybe even excitement, so totally turn the previous perceptions around.
 
kcantor said:
or one might say that of all the buildings real or proposed, this tower with it's particularly small floor plates, it's uses, and its height would make the least sense for an observation area/deck given the dedicated/lost space required for things like elevators and exiting etc. that would be needed to make it work. the space required for the observation area/deck is probably only a fraction of the overall useable/saleable space that would be lost to incorporate it.
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There's gotta be some way to possibly make an observation deck work! I mean, how do other towers around the world manage to do it?
 
Platinum107 said:
There's gotta be some way to possibly make an observation deck work! I mean, how do other towers around the world manage to do it?
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Exactly. Elevators to the top would be required regardless. It wouldn't be the Empire State building attracting quite as many visitors, so the the capacity could probably be lower.
 
The potential for this tower is incredible. As a fan though I think about the access to the river valley, the patio opportunities right on the bank of the valley, the possibility to add a tower with some curves (I know we have some but a signature tower of this height would be special). An observation deck/restaurant would be a incredible addition to our city (albeit certainly not make or break).
 
archited said:
(Hey Psst -- can you keep a secret) Alldritt owns the land north of the Russian Orthodox Cathedral abutting the south side of Jasper Avenue on 96th Street. Here they will be building their "presentation center" for the 80-storey tower; they also own the parking lot south of of the ROC which will provide parking for those checking out the "presentation center". I'll stake my reputation on this happening soon...
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archited said:
Work begins on their sales centres...
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Sooo with the March 20th date that was referenced fast approaching and @archited staking his reputation, I am curious if we will be seeing movement on this project this month. Any guesses or updates?
 
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