archited
Senior Member
I think the timeline is too tight to make the World Cup -- this will be a five-year construction project so it would have to start right now to make that happen.
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Given no permits are in and the complexity of the project, probably still looking at 18 months to start of construction after they submit anything to the City, which puts them into mid 2023 if they submit a package today. More likely to be in 2024 at this point, which puts them at 2028 or 2029 for completion.
archited
Senior Member
After the design is finalized and financing has been attained, it is conceivable that Alldritt could break the permit process up so that they could get an early start on foundation work. Having said that, I think the time-line is still too tight for World Cup.
Vacs
Active Member
I heard once they started doing soil samples and engineering excavating/shoring, piles and everything else they were in way over their heads.
I'd be shocked if this build ever happens
I'd be shocked if this build ever happens
archited
Senior Member
I spoke in confidence to Alldritt's tower project manager just recently and he confirms that the project is a full-on "go" -- you can expect to see a "sales centre" once the snow clears on the site between the Russian Orthodox Church and Jasper Avenue.
Vacs
Active Member
Hope you're right. Would love to see it.
At the same time, I've talked to a lot of developers who have told us the project is 100% full go and it never happen, so I'm not holding my breath
Definitely would be broken up, that said, I don't even think the DP is in (nothing here or on the public listings), so still a while to go on this and I think the circulation will take a while given the complexity of the site - I think a portion of the site has LRT implications.
kcantor
Senior Member
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like most sites with projects of this magnitude, there are lots of complexities and implications/limitations. on this however, lrt is not one of them.
like most sites with projects of this magnitude, there are lots of complexities and implications/limitations. on this however, lrt is not one of them.
Tommy2342
New Member
Hopefully they start construction, at least on the pilings, this Spring.
David A
Senior Member
Yes, good point! The forgotten about Courtyard hotel. It is close enough that it could have an indoor or pedway link, also the Hotel Macdonald.
The Westin and Doubletree Hilton are within fairly easy walking distance too, so it isn't like there is nothing nearby.
David A
Senior Member
Well lets hope they are better at property development than picking winning political candidates!
archited
Senior Member
There will be a massive excavation project before they get around to drilling piles -- the foundational direction here will include both piles and a substantial concrete mat slab. The mat slab will require extensive excavation below grade -- that will be the first order of business. After that excavation has been achieved then there will be pile drilling the depth of which will be at least half the height of the building.
The_Cat
Senior Member
I'm guessing that there could be some challenges with the old coal mines.
kcantor
Senior Member
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I’m guessing their foundations and piling will go so far below where the mines might have been it wouldn’t even matter.
I’m guessing their foundations and piling will go so far below where the mines might have been it wouldn’t even matter.
Friendmonton
Active Member
What I don’t understand is their commitment/stubbornness to the specific site. There are plenty of empty lots a tower could go with way less headaches.