David A
Senior Member
That would make good sense, this space is close the Winners and around the right size. It would be really nice to fill this core spot.
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Offworld
Active Member
The City could sell its interest, in the interest of getting the best possible complete redevelopment of the overall site. Demolish that Triple 5 eyesore please!
Please don't let the City stand in the way of necessary re-development.
David A
Senior Member
While the parkade is not great looking, I am guessing it is a money maker at this point for them.
kcantor
Senior Member
Although one has to wonder if the city’s actual net income is really that much greater than what would they would get “risk-free” from property taxes over and above what they would receive from a sale.
Avenuer
Senior Member
Is it? The current owner is EDMONTON CITY CENTRE INC., not the City.
Gus Haynes
Active Member
You can now really get a peak semi-nostalgic mall experience there: Grab a bite at the food court, buy a CD/movie/video game at Revolver, and cap it off with a movie at Landmark.
TAS
Senior Member
I am having mixed feelings about some new stores moving into CC mall.
The street view and outdoor experience of this particular mall is awful and ugly and really kills opportunity for vibrancy on 102Ave and 103St in particular but really all around it. It's one of the ugliest dt buildings I have seen anywhere I've been.
The street view and outdoor experience of this particular mall is awful and ugly and really kills opportunity for vibrancy on 102Ave and 103St in particular but really all around it. It's one of the ugliest dt buildings I have seen anywhere I've been.
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yeggator
Senior Member
I’m of the firm belief that this highlighted area just needs to be demolished and turned into a nice park/plaza (as a gathering space for Ice District patrons) until the market for new towers in this space materializes. Then, the whole mall should be consolidated into the eastern half. I believe this spares the movie theatre, which is a plus.
BASE
Active Member
Would kind of suck to lose that Delta hotel but might be a necessary sacrifice if can't properly fill/reno the old bay space
Markyeg
Active Member
At this point I think the best chance of having this mall be somewhat successful would be to consolidate everything on the east side and tear down the west side (really there’s not much left on the west side anyways except for some banks, cell phone kiosks and Dollarama. Then there’s literally an open canvas of a whole city block adjacent to an LRT station for a developer to do whatever (please no 6 storey wood frame apartments!)
yeggator
Senior Member
They could build a mixed-use tower with street-facing CRUs on that space that Delta could move into.
David A
Senior Member
The east side is doing better and has evolved a bit to integrate more with the street, although much more could be done. The west part was really designed as a suburban mall.
Had COVID not happened and decimated downtown retail, I feel the west side may have had major redevelopment to improve it. As for tearing it down, I feel that is a poor idea.
A lot of the problems downtown have been caused by tearing things down and replacing them with something worse in the name or progress or nothing at all. Just look at the empty lot where the Tegler/BMO building is just south of the mall. We don't need another empty lot in the heart of the city.
TAS
Senior Member
A reno on west and southside should be a must.
If mall fills up again, is there any incentive to invest in the exterior and its bunker like facade from the street with limited entrances?
crisp
Active Member
I've said long ago when I was living in Ultima, the entire West facade facing 103rd Street should have street-facing shops and restaurants. It would really round out the entire nightlife experience of the area with what's already on 103rd, 104th, and Ice District. Right now that blank wall just sucks life out of the strip.
But the entire facade does need a major reno, and doesn't look like investors are willing to take the risk. One can dream....
But the entire facade does need a major reno, and doesn't look like investors are willing to take the risk. One can dream....
Kosy123
Senior Member
I don't really think it's going to fill up unless they commit to investing to a reno. I know that's not going to happen unless there's more fundamental changes in the core that support more retail, but I'd say that City Centre renovating needs to happen for some of that change to start.
We're already seeing some bigger moves than we have since probably the Ice District broke ground (more residential coming online and construction, Ice District 2 announcement, retail spaces slowly getting filled).
I am an eternal optimist for the city and downtown especially, so I know I'm an outlier.