[jnolsen]

I hope some local film maker or NFB creates a documentary on UNCEDED and NETFLIX pick it up.

If you know anyone who may be interested, we are all ears! Lewis Cardinal is working on a documentary specifically on Douglas Cardinal right now, and UNCEDED is a component of this, but not directly on the exhibit itself.

 

[TAS]

Experts are saying the closure of the Bay is offering the opportunity to reimagine some big mall spaces for perhaps other uses.

We've had a big head start but so far not too much imagination. Hopefully discussions are happening on something.

 

[780thegoat]

I was in just in Miami - went to the Brickell City Center mall. I hope we use a page out of that book.

 

[Gronk!]

My ideas for the old Bay space at ECC:
- pickleball court
- pub
- food hall
- expansion of the Delta Hotel
- seniors housing
- Bay museum
- get rid of those damnable parkades and move the parking underground

 

[ADob]

agreed. this is my hood and walking by those parkades is soul crushing.

 

[IanO]

But murals!

 

[Greenspace]

West parkade is owned by the City.

 

[archited]

But murals!

Murals of my Butt

 

[archited]

West parkade is owned by the City.

It's time to sell!

 

[David A]

Experts are saying the closure of the Bay is offering the opportunity to reimagine some big mall spaces for perhaps other uses.

We've had a big head start but so far not too much imagination. Hopefully discussions are happening on something.

People are back downtown, but retail and commercial in particular does not seem to be coming back that much yet.

I suppose what happened was like a forest fire, it was really devastating to downtown. It takes a while for things to come back.

All the empty store fronts don't give a good impression to visitors or encourage more people to come downtown. It would be nice to see more progress soon.

 

[_urbanite]

John McKinlay named CEO at Centurion, leaves post at LaSalle

Maybe the new CEO will feel compelled to do something with this mall

 

[David A]

John McKinlay named CEO at Centurion, leaves post at LaSalle

Maybe the new CEO will feel compelled to do something with this mall

Maybe, but I suspect to many of the large Toronto based companies, we are an afterthought and a market they don't know how to deal with well, because it is quite different than there.

The mall problems are really downtown Edmonton problems. It is not like most of the rest of the downtown core is doing great either. Until we fix our downtown problems (and that is not up to one private company) things will remain challenging.

 

[Greenspace]

^Some people are back Downtown, 2-3 days a week. That's not like before.

 

[Tropical]

I disagree that the issues facing City Centre Mall should be framed as mutually exclusive. Yes, there are systemic issues in downtown Edmonton that destroy the sense of order and safety required for the shopping centre to thrive. Yes, there is major issues with the facility itself that destroy its interface with the surrounding neighbourhood and create an undesirable atmosphere.

Government needs to fix this. And the private owners need to fix this. This is not an either-or issue.

 

[David A]

I disagree that the issues facing City Centre Mall should be framed as mutually exclusive. Yes, there are systemic issues in downtown Edmonton that destroy the sense of order and safety required for the shopping centre to thrive. Yes, there is major issues with the facility itself that destroy its interface with the surrounding neighbourhood and create an undesirable atmosphere.

Government needs to fix this. And the private owners need to fix this. This is not an either-or issue.

In addition to all the systemic social issues, Edmonton is a very suburban focused city, with not that many corporate head offices downtown and seemingly little desire ever to attract more.

So boosting our downtown has been a challenge for decades and one I would say we are not doing that well at now.