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Does Flair survive the fuel price going up? Seems like they're doing fine.
Flair really isn't that much cheaper than AC/WJ/Porter nowadays. As long as they have similar hedges as the other companies, everybody's fares go up, they're still the lowest.
 
Doubt it. Hormuz closure is going to put air travel out of reach for a lot of people.
I know we're putting off booking another trip to see if prices correct. We normally travel outside Canada 2-3 times a year.

Flair really isn't that much cheaper than AC/WJ/Porter nowadays. As long as they have similar hedges as the other companies, everybody's fares go up, they're still the lowest.
I've yet to fly Flair, to me they're still an unknown (as most flying I do is international). But slightly undercutting the big 3 seems to be working out for them.
 
I know we're putting off booking another trip to see if prices correct. We normally travel outside Canada 2-3 times a year.


I've yet to fly Flair, to me they're still an unknown (as most flying I do is international). But slightly undercutting the big 3 seems to be working out for them.
I've flown them a few times and that was enough for me - I'll pay a little extra to fly WJ or Porter. I think out of 3 times, they were considerably late 2 of those times (one of which, I was supposed to get back to Calgary at 9 pm and didn't make it back til 3 am. No reason given for the delay). The nickel-and-diming is excessive and customer service isn't the best ($20 to call customer service???). Flight attendants were pleasant and friendly though, and I feel bad for them because no doubt they have to deal with a lot of surly passengers.
 
This line from Rod Sims, former chair of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission: Airports in large countries that rely on air travel, like Canada and Australia, operate as near monopolies if there aren't reasonable, nearby alternatives for flights.

Airports should only be privatized in places where there are potential reasonable alternatives: Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal (once Alto is operational).

Flying is already a pretty exclusive middle/upper-middle class and above travel option. Like driving in this city, there are not great options (although I think a bus is coming) but to drive if someone needs to get to Edmonton, Regina or Saskatoon. The windfall from the sale will be good but then you potentially make flying a even more out of reach option. You could argue that then they will just lower prices but I think flying is one of those things that people that can have a very high tolerance to just pay for. Prices didn't seem to come down after airlines made back their covid loses and now, I'm sure they've reached a new floor after this fuel crisis.

As is pointed out in the article, regulation could be an answer but that has its pitfalls too.

In theory once you build up Alto and maybe even Alto-west here in Alberta between Calgary and Edmonton, you could sell that off and regulate it as well. Then why stop there, sell off the QE2 and then we really let the free market decide the best way to travel between Calgary and Edmonton.
 
I know we're putting off booking another trip to see if prices correct. We normally travel outside Canada 2-3 times a year.


I've yet to fly Flair, to me they're still an unknown (as most flying I do is international). But slightly undercutting the big 3 seems to be working out for them.
Flew them a couple times a few years ago, schedule was fine, good enough for point to point. I was on a flight where they didn't even serve water, and they limit online check-in often because they want to see your carry on which results in long lines. Just too much hassle.
This line from Rod Sims, former chair of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission: Airports in large countries that rely on air travel, like Canada and Australia, operate as near monopolies if there aren't reasonable, nearby alternatives for flights.

Airports should only be privatized in places where there are potential reasonable alternatives: Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal (once Alto is operational).

Flying is already a pretty exclusive middle/upper-middle class and above travel option. Like driving in this city, there are not great options (although I think a bus is coming) but to drive if someone needs to get to Edmonton, Regina or Saskatoon. The windfall from the sale will be good but then you potentially make flying a even more out of reach option. You could argue that then they will just lower prices but I think flying is one of those things that people that can have a very high tolerance to just pay for. Prices didn't seem to come down after airlines made back their covid loses and now, I'm sure they've reached a new floor after this fuel crisis.

As is pointed out in the article, regulation could be an answer but that has its pitfalls too.

In theory once you build up Alto and maybe even Alto-west here in Alberta between Calgary and Edmonton, you could sell that off and regulate it as well. Then why stop there, sell off the QE2 and then we really let the free market decide the best way to travel between Calgary and Edmonton.
I don't think flying is that exclusive in Canada, when you take into account distance, Canada's airlines are pretty no frills and cheap on a per mile basis. Privatization serves 3 main purposes. For the government, it allows them to "use" that asset to invest in other things if they sell it, similar to how we're talking about selling Enmax to fund water. For the airport, private operations are usually more efficient than public. My argument is that Canadian airports are already capturing the benefits of private operations. Given the weather constraint, YYC facilities and operations are very efficient, and they can/already do bring in outside, private operations help. Lastly for the customer, privatization spurs competition and lower prices, but like you said, that's only the case if there's a viable competitor. Privatization in a near-monopoly industry just results in higher prices and people don't actually have a supply/demand choice. It's not like there's an option to not travel by plane between Calgary and Toronto. The choice is between travel and not travel, and affordable travel (trains, bus, cars, planes) have significant economic benefits (or else why are we spending $90B on HSR).
 
Canadian airports are already capturing the benefits of private operations.
Exactly, also isn't the current airport setup how a Enmax water utility would operate? Public ownership but private operation. We do this in a lot of other places too, City Recreation facilities being another place.

Doesn't feel worth the one-time pay day. I also think it is fine that our airports are not the nicest buildings in the city, which they arguably are now. So, they should be made to justify why they need to be so nice when it's not like they're trying to compete for business. Lower the fees.
 
I appreciate seeing more data beyond just a simple border crossing count. We're contemplating a border crossing but that's just because SFO is where we need to get to to get to our final destination. So, I wonder how many people have been technically crossing the border to then just get on another plane and fly out of the US without ever touching a US sidewalk?

 
Upcoming route launches (as of today):
May 15: WS YBL
June 12: WS YAM
June 17: PD YHU
June 19: WS YYB
August 6: AA JFK
October 25: EY AUH
November 8: WS GRU
December 10: AC PVR
December 11: AC CUN
December 17: F8 CUN
December 20: PD PHX

In a recent update, WS has increased CUN/PVR/PHX to up to 4x on select days, as well as additional frequencies on LIR/MZT/HUX/ZIH/LTO. The 787 also shows again on PVR.
 

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