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Midtown Urbanist said:
With the CPC going off the deep-end with populist anti-Canadian rhetoric, I wouldn't mind at all if progressive conservatives and Red Tory voters usurped the Green Party and made it a legitimate alternative to the Liberals on the centre-right of the spectrum.

The CPC doesn't want those voters, and there are still many of them. Mike Schreiner would be ideal to lead this pivot.

The socialist environmentalist crowd doesn't have the vision to lead a policy platform for true sustainability across major industry, nor the political acumen to not devolve to immediate infighting. The federal Green party at the moment serves only as a vector for protest votes and vote splitting with the NDP.
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Oddly enough this was considered last year.

The Canadian Future Party was formed by disgruntled Conservatives in August 2024 and is actually a registered party in this election. Unfortunately, they have not received much media attention since their formation which has me thinking that they are dead in the water.

See here: https://thecanadianfutureparty.ca/
 
Midtown Urbanist said:
With the CPC going off the deep-end with populist anti-Canadian rhetoric, I wouldn't mind at all if progressive conservatives and Red Tory voters usurped the Green Party and made it a legitimate alternative to the Liberals on the centre-right of the spectrum.
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I think a big question to be answered is where we think the CPC lands after this election. In the event that they don't win any sort of government and are in opposition again they'll be faced with another X number of years figuring out what they want to be. I'm not ready to jump to any conclusions at the moment but I can't imagine Poilievre sticking around for more work as oppo leader. Either the CPC remains a far-right entity post-election or they move back to centre-right where they were before. In the meantime, it makes sense for the LPC to absorb some of the centre and centre-right discontent that the CPC is vacating in favour of pushing further right.

I guess people can argue over the definitions but it doesn't really seem like there's a strong left-leaning party at the moment. The NDP seem content to float closer to the centre and the GPC, I guess, is centre these days as well.
Richard White said:
The Canadian Future Party was formed by disgruntled Conservatives in August 2024 and is actually a registered party in this election. Unfortunately, they have not received much media attention since their formation which has me thinking that they are dead in the water.
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Only two candidates, neither of which are Cardy. I wouldn't give them a second thought.
 
Mihairokov said:
I think a big question to be answered is where we think the CPC lands after this election. In the event that they don't win any sort of government and are in opposition again they'll be faced with another X number of years figuring out what they want to be. I'm not ready to jump to any conclusions at the moment but I can't imagine Poilievre sticking around for more work as oppo leader. Either the CPC remains a far-right entity post-election or they move back to centre-right where they were before. In the meantime, it makes sense for the LPC to absorb some of the centre and centre-right discontent that the CPC is vacating in favour of pushing further right.

I guess people can argue over the definitions but it doesn't really seem like there's a strong left-leaning party at the moment. The NDP seem content to float closer to the centre and the GPC, I guess, is centre these days as well.
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With Anti-Trump sentiment, I can see the CPC going back towards centre. If anything tanks them this election it will be their extreme right views and attacks on everything that does not fit into them.

What need now is a united front against Trump, not more attack ads.

Ultimately, this election is not about Carbon Tax, Affordability or anything of that sort. It is about the attack on our sovereignty by the US. The rhetoric that PP has been spewing for months won't get him far now.

Mihairokov said:
Only two candidates, neither of which are Cardy. I wouldn't give them a second thought.
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Agreed. They are going nowhere fast.
 
Every day there's going to be a story tying the CPC to the GOP and MAGA. They're one in the same these days and not only share ideals but share people, too. The CPC won't be able to separate themselves from MAGA.
 
CPC out with a promise to out-do Carney's tax cut.

Yesterday, the Liberal leader committed to reducing the entry level tax bracket to 14% from 15%.

Today, the CPC will see him his 1% and add another 1.25% on top for a total reduction of 2.25% to 12.75%

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While either of these schemes will cost the treasury billions, though the latter man more so per year.................the benefit to most would be surprisingly small.

About ~$5 per week to $13 per week.

I mean, great and all..but we have a massive structural deficit........low growth.....an apparent need to jack up defense spending by over 10B per annum.....and some desire to pursue large scale infrastructure from pipelines to HSR.

Exactly when is it due to rain money? I want to put some buckets out.
 
Mihairokov said:
I think a big question to be answered is where we think the CPC lands after this election. In the event that they don't win any sort of government and are in opposition again they'll be faced with another X number of years figuring out what they want to be. I'm not ready to jump to any conclusions at the moment but I can't imagine Poilievre sticking around for more work as oppo leader. Either the CPC remains a far-right entity post-election or they move back to centre-right where they were before. In the meantime, it makes sense for the LPC to absorb some of the centre and centre-right discontent that the CPC is vacating in favour of pushing further right.

I guess people can argue over the definitions but it doesn't really seem like there's a strong left-leaning party at the moment. The NDP seem content to float closer to the centre and the GPC, I guess, is centre these days as well.
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The problem for any centrist pivot of a post-election CPC is that a large part of the CPC caucus, party leadership, and registered party members are actually aligned with Danielle Smith and Pierre Poilievre views on Canada, the United States, and populist "conservativism". They aren't going anywhere even if PP is displaced as leader. Frankly, these people need to be ostracized in the political spectrum much in the same way as the AfD are in Germany.

Eventually the Liberals will shift back to the centre-left, so there is still room for another party on the centre-right in my opinion. We probably need electoral reform to a proportional representation based voting system to realize such an evolution though.
 
Midtown Urbanist said:
The problem for any centrist pivot of a post-election CPC is that a large part of the CPC caucus, party leadership, and registered party members are actually aligned with Danielle Smith and Pierre Poilievre views on Canada, the United States, and populist "conservativism". They aren't going anywhere even if PP is displaced as leader. Frankly, these people need to be ostracized in the political spectrum much in the same way as the AfD are in Germany.
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Agreed. At this point the CPC machine is probably geared to these extremists more than the old PCs or even centre-right Tories. I don't know if there's a way forward for the party to move back towards the centre or if they just immolate themselves far-right.
Midtown Urbanist said:
Eventually the Liberals will shift back to the centre-left, so there is still room for another party on the centre-right in my opinion. We probably need electoral reform to a proportional representation based voting system to realize such an evolution though.
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Agreed. There's no incentive to vote for smaller parties as they simply vote-split. We need electoral reform if we want our democracy to survive and not become what has happened south of us.
 
Mihairokov said:
I think a big question to be answered is where we think the CPC lands after this election. In the event that they don't win any sort of government and are in opposition again they'll be faced with another X number of years figuring out what they want to be. I'm not ready to jump to any conclusions at the moment but I can't imagine Poilievre sticking around for more work as oppo leader. Either the CPC remains a far-right entity post-election or they move back to centre-right where they were before. In the meantime, it makes sense for the LPC to absorb some of the centre and centre-right discontent that the CPC is vacating in favour of pushing further right.
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Poilievre loves being opposition leader and attacking the government.
 
On the tax cuts noted above..........Mr. Blanchet of the BQ was asked about how he will compete with these.........by media.

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From CBC: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/li...-centre-stage-on-the-campaign-trail-9.6695827
 
A lot of former Ontario Liberal candidates are running for the federal Liberals this time:
  • Karim Bardeesy, Parkdale-High Park candidate in 2022, is running federally in the slightly redrawn riding.
  • Chi Nyugen, former Spadina-Fort York candidate in 2022, is running federally in the slightly redrawn riding.
  • Vince Gasparro, former Eglinton-Lawrence candidate who lost by a nose in last month’s election, is running federally.
Also, former Etobicoke Centre Conservative MP Ted Opitz (2011 to 2015) is running to reclaim the seat.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
FFS:

bsky.app

Luke LeBrun (@lukelebrun.ca)

Two Conservative insiders told @stephenmaher.bsky.social that Poilievre’s team discussed using Conservative candidate Jamil Jivani to send back channel messages to JD Vance requesting Donald Trump “distance himself from Poilievre”...
bsky.app bsky.app

AoD
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So the other shoe drops here? I mean, this is /tinfoil grade stuff here likely without the /tinfoil... >.<
 
christiesplits said:
A lot of former Ontario Liberal candidates are running for the federal Liberals this time:
  • Karim Bardeesy, Parkdale-High Park candidate in 2022, is running federally in the slightly redrawn riding.
  • Chi Nyugen, former Spadina-Fort York candidate in 2022, is running federally in the slightly redrawn riding.
  • Vince Gasparro, former Eglinton-Lawrence candidate who lost by a nose in last month’s election, is running federally.
Also, former Etobicoke Centre Conservative MP Ted Opitz (2011 to 2015) is running to reclaim the seat.
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Vince Gasparro should run in University-Rosedale and pretend he's the proprietor of the butcher shop. He'd win in a landslide.
 
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