[PL1]

Plenty of time to have a leadership campaign before the next election.

A leadership campaign costs a lot of money. The PCPO have lots; the other parties do not. Add in the so-called government ads (that are clearly partisan) between the elections and the PCPO are operating from a position of advantage.

 

[chrisw]

A leadership campaign costs a lot of money. The PCPO have lots; the other parties do not. Add in the so-called government ads (that are clearly partisan) between the elections and the PCPO are operating from a position of advantage.

Yes, though the leadership campaign will also be good for raising money, just not 2025 when people already might've donated enough.

Yes, the PC has a fundraising advantage and has a lot of partisan government ads, that doesn't mean another PC majority in 2029 is a foregone conclusion.

 

[guavadelic]

I wonder if Doug is considering a run at Federal Politics if Pollievre is a dud.

A near certainty. His whole act since this Tariff Crisis has telegraphed that.

 

[Admiral Beez]

A near certainty. His whole act since this Tariff Crisis has telegraphed that.

IDK. The only French our premier knows is fries, toast and maybe dressing.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

I am surprised how close my riding was. Just a few percentage points/

I suspect they could have won a few more if they were more diligent with their get out the vote machine.

AoD

 

[lenaitch]

At the same time though - is Crombie the person who should be leader? I keep saying that I don't think this isn't the job for people in their 70s. It's both high stress, requires one to be at the top of one's game, and someone that old is unlikely to have the ability to inspire political change, especially the younger voters who may be more accessible to change. (well technically she'll only be 69 for the latter - but that's still an issue for the former).

I thought Stiles out-performed Crombie in the debate - and at the start of the election I didn't even recognize their name, or recall their gender!

I thought Bonnie was going to cry at one point ...

It's always going to be a balance of energy vs experience; Poilievre vs Churchill. I don't think it is something a broad statement can be made about.

Ps - I had no idea she was in her 60s - good for her.

 

[jje1000]

I wonder if Doug is considering a run at Federal Politics if Pollievre is a dud.

I don't think he would be accepted by Ottawa and the Laurentian elites.

Sort of like a Trump-esque stand-in for Canada, just like how Rob was proto-Trump.

 

[nfitz]

Ps - I had no idea she was in her 60s - good for her.

Good for her if she had some pride and actually showed her age, like Hazel did.

With all the concealing make-up, it has the sad old person vibe of someone trying to hide it, it always seems visually repulsive to me. Ditto for Trump.

If she got rid of the makeup and used green paint in her hair instead of blond, I'd be more sold.

I don't think he would be accepted by Ottawa and the Laurentian elites.

More than that, I don't think he'd be accepted by the further right social conservatives that seem to have gotten control of the Conservatives - after governing as more of a red Tory (he wouldn't have won 3 majorities in a row without becoming the kind of Conservative that won 12 elections in a row for over 40 years into the 1980s. (well they won lucky 13 as well, but the Conservative minority didn't last long against a united Liberal/NDP opposition)

Sort of like a Trump-esque stand-in for Canada, just like how Rob was proto-Trump.

Rob wasn't a proto-Trump. Unlike the likes of Trump, he actually appeared to care about his constituents, and seemed happy and effective as a local councillor. Yes, he had his personal bigotries - but the big issue was his drug and alcohol addictions.

Don't get me wrong - I've never voted for either of them. But neither are Trump. Do you see Ford attacking Trudeau in person like Trump attacked Zelensky? Heck, do you see Ford attacking Crombie like we saw Crombie attacking Ford in person?

 

[Northern Light]

Good for her if she had some pride and actually showed her age, like Hazel did.

With all the concealing make-up, it has the sad old person vibe of someone trying to hide it, it always seems visually repulsive to me. Ditto for Trump.

If she got rid of the makeup and used green paint in her hair instead of blond, I'd be more sold.

You want Union Station's Great Hall to stay in an ugly orange glow from the '70s............. and you want Bonnie to 'paint' her hair green and try to look older........

I'll give you this, you have unique taste.

 

[nfitz]

You want Union Station's Great Hall to stay in an ugly orange flow from the '70s............. and you want Bonnie to 'paint' her hair green and try to look older........

I'll give you this, you have unique taste.

I'm not sure where you get the former; I commented when the Bay concourse reopened that dreadfully coloured and poorly-designed 1970s Bay concourse was so much improved.

And as for the latter - I want the ambience of the 1920s in the Great Hall - and I've spoken positively about what they are planning.

Has anyone ever mentioned that sometimes you can be a little too black and white on things (I say in a friendly way)?

 

[christiesplits]

Barring any recounts, this is the new electoral map of the 416.

Flips:

Etobicoke Lakeshore went from PC to Liberal
Toronto-St. Paul's went from NDP to Liberal
Don Valley North went from Independent (formerly PC) to Liberal

Biggest victory:

Peter Tabuns (NDP) in Toronto-Danforth - 60.4%

Smallest victory:

Mohamed Firin (PC) in York South-Weston - 35.2%

Global News

 

[Towered]

IDK. The only French our premier knows is fries, toast and maybe dressing.

He compensates by flying the Franco-Ontarian flag at Queen's Park.

 

[Mihairokov]

If nothing else, they have official party status again.

What prevents the PCs from raising the bar on this yet again? It was previously eight seats before the current 12

 

[afransen]

What prevents the PCs from raising the bar on this yet again? It was previously eight seats before the current 12

I think it would be rather outrageous for them to be raising the bar to specifically exclude the Liberals from official party status. It would be very hard to justify that position that a party with >10% of the seats in the legislature does not warrant party status. It would probably backfire into strengthening the Liberals rather than weakening them.

 

[christiesplits]

Doug, like it or not, made his best decision hiring Kouvalis and Teneycke, demolishing Crombie early, and choosing an opportune time to pull the plug on his government.

I also don't doubt that Doug harbors no ill-feeling towards Trump, but his big act against Trump probably swayed a good number of people, something that Poilievre was caught flat-footed on.

Even with a majority, I suspect there's some disappointment among the PC brain trust with the results. There were some seat projections early in the campaign that had Ford hovering in the 90+ seat range. They also had higher hopes in Northern Ontario, Niagara and London, where the NDP retained most of their seats. I was also surprised the NDP held onto Windsor West and Oshawa, two blue-collar ridings where the tariff threat should have helped the PCs.